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Old 07-07-2010, 11:15 AM   #12751
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What do you think will be a good setup for m05...
Holes inside the shock?
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60d s-grips tires very good traction.
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I will be using m-chassis trf alum damper.
Since the idea is to get more grip to your front tires here is my set up. I have my M03 set up this way I have two hole pistons in the dampers with 30 weight oil and red softer springs for the front and I have three hole pistons in the back with 50 weight oil and hard springs blue. As for tires I use the 55 super grip slicks for the front and 55 medium grip radial tires for the back I found that parking lots can be very different in traction so some clubs use sugar water or pop for more grip.
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:56 AM   #12752
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I was looking at buying that body, but it only comes in 225mm WB. All of my 4WD minis are only 210mm.
WILL THIS BODY FIT MY M03 ?? NEED IT TO MATCH MY 1/10 Rally and TC5





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Old 07-08-2010, 03:08 PM   #12753
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Does anybody know if the ABC Hobby Toyota Vitz body fit the M03 chassis its a 208mm wheelbase.
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Old 07-08-2010, 03:23 PM   #12754
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All the ABC Genetic hatchback bodies will fit the M-Chassis with SWB.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:02 AM   #12755
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What would a 13T 3000KV brushless motor be equal to in brushed terms.
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:03 PM   #12756
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About a black Tamiya Sport tuned...

I just changed diff in my M05Pro from a M05 balldiff to a hybrid of TA03 and Manta Ray.
Took gear and thrustbearing from Manta Ray and metal parts from TA03.
Then I machined the outdrives to fit the ears on driveshafts. The car felt better, more stable and faster. The diff was set pretty loose and smooth.
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What would a 13T 3000KV brushless motor be equal to in brushed terms.
A very seriously tweaked Black can. Not within 2/3 seconds a lap on our track.
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Old 07-10-2010, 02:12 PM   #12758
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Default 17.5T vs EZrun 3000kv

Has anyone got experience of running a 17.5 brushless system in a mini, and how it compares to the performance of the EZrun 3000kv system?

I know the kv rating isn't the best way of comparing brushless motors, but the highest kv rated 17.5 motor I've seen is the Speed Passion V3.0 @2700kv. The reason I ask is that the mini class I run in has a motor limit of EZrun 3000kv or 17.5T (everyone currently runs the EZrun though). About 18 months ago I did try a Losi Xcelorin-S 17.5T system in the mini with a 20T pinion, but it was slower than even a black-can sport-tuned motor.

I just wondered that what with the boost/turbo features on many brushless ESC's nowadays, and the extra grunt of a true 540-sized motor compared to the EZrun motor, would a current 17.5T be any faster, given the very limited gearing options in the mini?

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Old 07-12-2010, 10:03 PM   #12759
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Has anyone got experience of running a 17.5 brushless system in a mini, and how it compares to the performance of the EZrun 3000kv system?

I know the kv rating isn't the best way of comparing brushless motors, but the highest kv rated 17.5 motor I've seen is the Speed Passion V3.0 @2700kv. The reason I ask is that the mini class I run in has a motor limit of EZrun 3000kv or 17.5T (everyone currently runs the EZrun though). About 18 months ago I did try a Losi Xcelorin-S 17.5T system in the mini with a 20T pinion, but it was slower than even a black-can sport-tuned motor.

I just wondered that what with the boost/turbo features on many brushless ESC's nowadays, and the extra grunt of a true 540-sized motor compared to the EZrun motor, would a current 17.5T be any faster, given the very limited gearing options in the mini?

3000KV would be a little too fast for the Mini cause the motors turn would be somewhere around 13T you would probably spin the tires most of the time. You could get away with a max of 2400KV motor. I run a 2230KV in my mini and its got very good speed. I just ordered a 2400KV motor I wanna see how much more speed will I get out of this motor.
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3000KV would be a little too fast for the Mini cause the motors turn would be somewhere around 13T you would probably spin the tires most of the time. You could get away with a max of 2400KV motor. I run a 2230KV in my mini and its got very good speed. I just ordered a 2400KV motor I wanna see how much more speed will I get out of this motor.
I could be wrong here, but the 3000KV motor is the spec motor for Mini racing in Australia. They are saying it is the equivalent of a good Blackcan or Sport tuned.

At least that is the system I purchased to try out. Some of them post on this thread from time to time, so they should be able to enlighten us.
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The 3000kv EZ-RUN system we use in the Minis is NOT a 540 sized motor. It looks like one, but it is in fact a 380 size.

So, direct kv comparisons between it and 'normal' brushless motors are virtually impossible and lots of people fall into that trap.

We have run a 17.5 and from memory (it was well oveer 12 months ago)there was no advantage to be had, the thing was wheelspinning everywhere due to the extra torque.
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All Mini-runners at our track run EzRun 35A/25A with 13T 3000kv motors.
They have been great here, all goes equally fast. There are no expensive esc or motor to use. I just bought another system for a new member on ebay for 60 USD incl shipping, but it was without the programcard. I got 10 of them so i'm happy not to get another. My system has been running for 2 years now, still as good as the day i bought it, opened it the other day to take a look inside and remove debris from carpet. No wear and looked great.
I would recommend this system any day, the best bang for the buck you can ever buy on your mini. Silvercan should be dead, i see that ezrun has come out with 2400kv/16t motor. That should be close to silvercan speeds.
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I have some questions about the Sweep pre-mounted tires. What has been your experience in low grip parking lot situations? According to Sweep USA customer service they are 55mm in total diameter. It seems the Tamiya tires are closer to 59 or 60mm. Do the Sweep tires give you less top speed? Thanks.
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All Mini-runners at our track run EzRun 35A/25A with 13T 3000kv motors.
They have been great here, all goes equally fast. There are no expensive esc or motor to use. I just bought another system for a new member on ebay for 60 USD incl shipping, but it was without the programcard. I got 10 of them so i'm happy not to get another. My system has been running for 2 years now, still as good as the day i bought it, opened it the other day to take a look inside and remove debris from carpet. No wear and looked great.
I would recommend this system any day, the best bang for the buck you can ever buy on your mini. Silvercan should be dead, i see that ezrun has come out with 2400kv/16t motor. That should be close to silvercan speeds.
Now that's true you might be able to hook up on carpet with a 3000KV motor but not on asphalt I tried and the car is all over the place with a lot of wheel spin. 2400KV is about as much as you can use on asphalt. We run 2230KV motors in the parking lot and you get plenty of speed, the idea of racing a Mini on a real road course (asphalt or parking lot) is not to get ridiculous speed because it wears out your tires fast but to get the best combination of road holding and enough speed not to spin the tires.
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I could be wrong here, but the 3000KV motor is the spec motor for Mini racing in Australia. They are saying it is the equivalent of a good Blackcan or Sport tuned.

At least that is the system I purchased to try out. Some of them post on this thread from time to time, so they should be able to enlighten us.
If you will race on asphalt or parking lot get ready to buy lots and lots and lots of tires because the 3000KV motor is NOT equal to a blackcan motor since a blackcan is about 27T the 3000KV is a 13T motor equal to about 23/24T brushed motor.
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