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Old 01-27-2010, 08:56 PM   #11371
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Hey there

I have a some questions which i hope someone can help point me in the right direction.

I have an M05 using the HW brushless system, with 3 racing alloy motor mount and heat sink. 3 racing dampers (i do not have different springs yet), and universals.

I took it up to the Windsor , (i was using hte standard tyres that come the kit). The car was behaving mostly (my driving skills werent ).

I Played around with the ride height of the car both front and back, tried toe in and toe out on the front to see what effect it would have on the car. It was substantial.
I wore down the kit tyres well, Two battery backs later and a lot of laps and wall slapping. left the day all happy

I went back a couple days later with Spice rims, HPI xpatterns on the front and Spice 32's on the rear all with 5mm medium inserts. This is where i got major traction roll.

So with htis tyre combo it is now generating to much grip. This is what i am thinking i might try.
  • Harder springs on both the front an rear? currently using the 3racing Black springs
  • Should i remove the internal spacer for hte front shocks to increase the travel?
  • Would XX degree rear hubs help?

I realise that my driving style will also need to change and its not all about the car

Am i heading in the right direction in lessening traction roll?

Many Thanks

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:00 PM   #11372
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What is your ride height? Get it a s close as possible to 5mm and take it from there.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:52 PM   #11373
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Jason, the mini is a funny little critter indeed , especially at Windsor.
We have the best traction you can get,shy of carpet that is, making them sometimes quite frustrating.
Suggestions I have : as Niznai said, drop it like it's hot.

I got mine down around 3.5-4mm,but had to take out the droop limiting spacers.
I now use the kit rear plastic hubs.
The front tyres you want packed out ,to take away some of the side bite.
Watch out for too soft/too much air gap on the rears too,as it can cause incessant wandering down the straight.
I have ordered some Ride 3035s for the front,as I found the X patterns to give great grip ,but poor wear.
I'm also trying the Cross rear tyres next,as I believe they have a squarer edge , so don't roll under and grab suddenly.

P.S i'm far from a mini expert by any means, just sharing my thoughts/ experiences.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:21 PM   #11374
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Fleetmaster / Niznai thanks for that i will give it a try

Fleetmaster they are a funny little car. I am loving it though.

SO basically drop it on its A&$e.. i can do that.

HPI X pattern tyres do wear out quickly. I noticed after a couple of hours of running around at Windsor it had a lot of wear.

what about springs.. Should i go for stiffer springs? would that Reduce grip?
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:47 PM   #11375
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Fleetmaster / Niznai thanks for that i will give it a try

Fleetmaster they are a funny little car. I am loving it though.

SO basically drop it on its A&$e.. i can do that.

HPI X pattern tyres do wear out quickly. I noticed after a couple of hours of running around at Windsor it had a lot of wear.

what about springs.. Should i go for stiffer springs? would that Reduce grip?
Funnily enough, I havent found them to make much difference. I do run one rate softer up front for better turn in though. It seems that softening your setup at Windsor seems to help,just sounds all wrong though....
I'm sure that some other ,more mini experienced guys will chip in with their thoughts.
Alternatively, P.M. Besercoe,he is the one handing arses back at our track.
He may have some tips for you .....
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:05 AM   #11376
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Why doesnt the m05 ball differential fit in the xevo ff conversion kit? Its kinda lame cas i thought they would but i only realized it doesnt when i was already assembling the kit.... Which ball differential fits then?
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Why doesnt the m05 ball differential fit in the xevo ff conversion kit? Its kinda lame cas i thought they would but i only realized it doesnt when i was already assembling the kit.... Which ball differential fits then?
Either the manta Ray diff or the ta03 diff

the reason the M05 diff don't fit is the xeno pre-dates the M05, when the only diff options were the manta ray or the ta03
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:33 PM   #11378
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Reading through this thread, I noticed a lot of clubs/people useing the Hobbywing BL system. The 35A esc and 13t 3000kv motor I find are all sensorless. Is this a problem, not having the sensored system? Am I just not looking in the right place to find the sensored ones?
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:09 PM   #11379
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The Hobbywing only comes as a sensorless system, and I think anyone who has used it would agree it's an absolute PERFECT match for the Mini.

Why are you so keen on a sensored system anyway?
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Please don't get me wrong, I am only asking if that was the only system offered.
I guess the fact that in r/c offroad it is beat into brushless user's heads that due to the cogging effect on start up, you only use sensored systems. My newbie user status to BL systems prevails. If it works, it works. I like the lower cost, especially since I will be buying two, one for me and one for my son.


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Old 01-28-2010, 07:10 PM   #11381
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The HW is awesome in mini and because they aren't geared up,there isn't a cogging issue.
Geared to the hilt in a tc, it would be 10.5 fast or better,but may cog then.
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Is this the combo being used ?

http://www.hobbypartz.com/ezrun-35a-...tem-combo.html


Hey Fleetmaster, what body is on the car in your avitar?
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Is this the combo being used ?

http://www.hobbypartz.com/ezrun-35a-...tem-combo.html


Hey Fleetmaster, what body is on the car in your avitar?
Yes, that is it.

His bodyshell is an ABC Datsun Sunny hobby shell:

http://www.abchobby.com/
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Nice bodies, but most are labeled "Not Available to TAMIYA M03 chassis"
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Old 01-29-2010, 12:15 AM   #11385
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Check the wheelbase and you'll know which fit and which don't.
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