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Old 10-19-2009, 07:23 AM   #10531
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you know how it is...you get some newbie with a little bit of track time and some book knowledge about weight placement and they know everything...I got about 8 or 9 years racing m-chassis and I KNOW I don't know everything about the cars, but I guess the less track-time you have the smarter you are

maybe everyone should just ignore him and he'll go away...
Some guys use the same hack solutions for years because it worked for them, doesn't mean it's the best solution. You sound like one of those guys.

But hey if you want your car to be heavy so it doesn't traction roll that's great. It's still a hack solution to some other fundamental problem that you still haven't figured out...and probably never will.

In the meantime there are those who have lighter cars that are just as fast and don't traction roll. Those are the guys who actually understand physics and proper chassis tuning.

Don't ever apply for an engineering job...you won't get hired. Companies don't hire shade tree hack jobs.

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:56 AM   #10532
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Haven't tried them Edwin.

And if we had there would be no point me posting my opinion as apparently my 15 years of racing M chassis is insufficient experience...
well, tony your point of view has been leading me to great M chasis experience, so to me, your advise its important

please try them and tell us what you think?

i also agree to say that its will be loud like the spice spur gear....
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:39 PM   #10533
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Some guys use the same hack solutions for years because it worked for them, doesn't mean it's the best solution. You sound like one of those guys.

But hey if you want your car to be heavy so it doesn't traction roll that's great. It's still a hack solution to some other fundamental problem that you still haven't figured out...and probably never will.

In the meantime there are those who have lighter cars that are just as fast and don't traction roll. Those are the guys who actually understand physics and proper chassis tuning.

Don't ever apply for an engineering job...you won't get hired. Companies don't hire shade tree hack jobs.
Chassis tuning on a Mini now theres a first

Light can also mean lower traction as well remember

And as for Tony Gray ... you have put foot in mouth he works for a major real car manufacturer ... in design I believe So I think the guy has some idea
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:57 PM   #10534
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I support Greg's statement. The combined knowledge of the RC mini crew is on the web site and assists all mini drivers. There is something there for everyone.

Now lets get back to the real deal and just talk mini and mini setups.

PaPeRo,

How about sharing some of your light weight setups, so we can give them ago. I always like to try new things.

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Old 10-19-2009, 02:04 PM   #10535
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And as for Tony Gray ... you have put foot in mouth he works for a major real car manufacturer ... in design I believe So I think the guy has some idea
i think i'm gonna have to agree with you Cannon (can you imagine that - must be the thread )

I don't pretend to know everything, but I DO know when people know things and when they are blowing smoke - and Tony is the real deal

I'd trust whatever he has on his website
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:20 PM   #10536
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Sorry Tony but maybe Papero has a point. After all your side did let some of us down very badly at Bathurst.
Your going to have to come up with something special to make up for the vodaphone traitors.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:17 PM   #10537
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PaPeRo,

How about sharing some of your light weight setups, race results etc.???
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:38 PM   #10538
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x2. If there are better ideas to be had, let's have 'em! It can only improve the breed.

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Old 10-19-2009, 06:40 PM   #10539
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I had a great idea on how to lighten my car and lower the center of gravity (a lot).
Only now that the rear wheels are off it seems to wander a bit.
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I had a great idea on how to lighten my car and lower the center of gravity (a lot).
Only now that the rear wheels are off it seems to wander a bit.
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Take the front wheels off too. That sould cure the wandering problem
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Take the front wheels off too. That sould cure the wandering problem
I did and the funny thing was I still finished the same amount of races.
I figured now that I had my consistancy sorted out I would put a couple of wheels back on. Do you think I should have tried the rear ones first?
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:37 PM   #10542
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Sorry Tony but maybe Papero has a point. After all your side did let some of us down very badly at Bathurst.
Your going to have to come up with something special to make up for the vodaphone traitors.
Don't blame us for Bathurst Terry...the only thing 'Ford' on a V8 Supercar is the wording, and even that's not on the Pogofone cars.

V8 Supercars is more like r/c than ever, just a different bodyshell on a generic chassis nowadays.
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:13 AM   #10543
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Chassis tuning on a Mini now theres a first

Light can also mean lower traction as well remember

And as for Tony Gray ... you have put foot in mouth he works for a major real car manufacturer ... in design I believe So I think the guy has some idea
totally agree with your point, lighter less traction,

but maybe we are able to shift the CG to achieve more traction....

well just my 2 cents, after seeing the weight distribution on the Xevo, i suggest you to reconsider the term " lighter = Less traction"
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:32 AM   #10544
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PaPero,

I have a couple of questions for you:

1. How many Championship did you win in the Mini class?
2. If 0 is your answer, then how many major races did you win with a Mini?
3. if 0 is your answer, then did you ever win something?

I think that before blaming the old dudes like you are doing, you should at least proove that your theories are worth the change.

Don't be shy put your miraculous set-up on this thread, and let us see!!!!!

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It's pointless to YOU. If weight wasn't important then Tamiya would be using all steel and plastic parts on their TRF racers.

We all know the championship winning TRF cars use carbon and aluminum because it's lighter and stronger not because it's heavier.



And that's fine, nobody said you had to use metal gears. All I said was that metal gears are very common and are stock on many nitro cars because they don't wear out as fast as plastic/nylon gears. Heck many people use MG servos because they don't strip as easily when you crash.

Don't kid yourself. If Tamiya released a TRF M chassis with a carbon chassis you girls would be wetting your panties left and right.
thats a whole chassie that is carbon saves a lot more than two tiny shafts that are carbon
but any ways il be gon from this thread because every 1 isnt bothering with the mini at me club so im going to the novice touring car with a ANSMANN ARE-1 EP
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