OK guys it's time to 'stir the pot' a little on another subject.
Down here in Aus we DON'T have TCS any more, so our Mini rules are slightly different. Although not hugely so.
Unlike what a lot of you guys do, we run Sport-Tuned motors. Well, as you've seen on our site, we're always on the look out for something new, and the Hobbywing brushless system we tested a little while back showed great promise.
And now it looks like being adopted by most of the States in Australia as the default Mini motor. Here's what I posted on the Aus Mini thread in rctech.
Well I suppose it's about time I stuck in our 2 cents worth...
I can tell you all now, we've now done months of testing on these systems, both the 3000 and 3300. We've been going since mid-year, trying to get the best possible handle on how they compare to Sport-Tuneds.
To be honest, we eliminated the 3300 the first day. It was obviously a lot quicker. On our data, around a second a lap easily. So that was out straight away. We then concentrated on the 3000 (13T)
Drivers used were Tony Parreiro, Tony Gray (me) and Tim Keiller. We used ourselves simply because we knew that all of us were capable of turning lap after lap of good consistent times. For those of you familiar with Alycat timing, that means consistency readings in the area of around .2 most runs. In the absence of a driving 'machine' thats the best we could come up with for consistent, repeatable laps.
So...here's a sample of the figures, recorded at the Keilor track. Our names are mentioned, but I've left the others anonymous given that I havent asked their permission.
Jun 15 - fastest laps
Driver A 24.375 - S/Tuned
Tim 24.438 - S/Tuned
Tony G 24.753 - S/Tuned
Driver B 24.937 - S/Tuned
Jul 6 - fastest laps
Tony P 24.01 - H/W 3000
Tim 24.125 - S/Tuned
Tony G 24.75 - S/Tuned
Driver B 24.813 - S/Tuned
Sep 21 - fastest laps
Tony P 24.00 - H/W 3000
Tony G 24.70 - H/W 3000
Driver C 25.7 - S/Tuned
Bottom line - WE are going virtually EXACTLY the same speed still... My personal lap times are within a few tenths. And Tony P is always just that HINT quicker than everyone - which is fair enough, he's on form this year, the current Vic champion.
The telling thing for us was both Driver A and Tim in the low 24's - with Sport-Tuneds, essentially the same as what we were getting with the Hobbywings.
Basically, there is NO more difference between a HW 3000 and a Sport-Tuned than what there is between any 10 random picked Sport-Tuneds...and thats what I think is the critical factor.
Yes, the Hobbywing motors are different. What is different is the way that they make and deliver their power. They reach their top speed quicker. They SEEM to launch out of the corners quicker, although we suspect thats more a factor of the slightly different setup we all use.
But what matters is the data, and the lap times don't lie. At the end of each lap, the times are virtually the same.
Since having the Hobbywings what's become REALLY obvious to us is the consistency of these motors. They are virtually IDENTICAL, one to the next.
And...the whole system costs a little over $100 Aus. Thats about the price of 3 sport-tuneds (and I'd go through a LOT more than that in a year) AND you get an ESC included! I looked at most of the cars at the track, and most of the guys had laid out over $200 just for their ESC...
As for scrutineering, this is how the motors will be coming in the future.(This is a 10 turn pictured, not the 3000kv/13 turn) The end of the can will be etched with the number of turns, so a quick glance will tell you what motor it is. I might add, this is a DIRECT RESULT of us pushing Hobbywing to do so too!
I can understand why some people are wary of these, but from where we stand, we reckon they're the best thing to happen to Mini in years, and we're 100% behind them.