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Old 08-21-2007, 12:41 AM   #4816
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Jeez...have I missed something? Someone update me where the black can and minis fit together under TCS regs. I'm only familiar with silver can for minis.
Sorry. My bad. As you can see based on my signiture, I don't know anything about electric TCS racing. Black, silver, gold, yellow.......their all the same to me. I just wanted to share these photos and vids for all of you mini lovers
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:45 AM   #4817
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Anyone know if the caterpillar fits the M03? The description on rcmart says it doesn't fit the M03... is that true? If so, it's good thing I have that unbuilt M04M sitting in my closet.
Here's a stock list from Rainbow Ten and they're in stock there right now.

Plus an underneath shot of Tims car clearly showing the caterpillar mounted on a SWB M03..

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Old 08-21-2007, 12:50 AM   #4818
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Awesome, thanks Tony.

Have you ordered much from Rainbow Ten?
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:56 AM   #4819
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Sorry. My bad. As you can see based on my signiture, I don't know anything about electric TCS racing. Black, silver, gold, yellow.......their all the same to me. I just wanted to share these photos and vids for all of you mini lovers

Yeah right Roger
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Yeah right Roger
hahahah. Hey, when you coming down to NorCal so that i can order one of those catapillar cars and chase you around the track
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:14 AM   #4821
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hahahah. Hey, when you coming down to NorCal so that i can order one of those catapillar cars and chase you around the track

Any time. Can I run my TCS foams? Hey you can get those bodies?
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:22 AM   #4822
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come on guys.. I like it here..
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:47 AM   #4823
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Awesome, thanks Tony.

Have you ordered much from Rainbow Ten?
THOUSANDS of dollars worth over the years.....
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Tony, that should be MANY thousands. Just for your info, Tony put me onto a company about a Fiat Arbarth body for my Mini, i sent the money and it was in Australia in 7 days, so if Tony said it is good, it is good
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:55 AM   #4825
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Aww gee Bob, now I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy...

No, wait a minute, that's just the undies I haven't changed for 3 weeks....
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I can smell it from here!.......
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:30 AM   #4827
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Ooo very nice alfa. I have to get one now.

Oh thanks for talking about me on the Royal Rumble thread.
thanks, sydewynder! this car turned out tons better than i thought.
def a nice kit and body.

was that about the body? hehehe. rumbling is fun.
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Last time I ran the nationals out in Cali ( 2 years ago) we ran handout black can motors, I'm pretty sure that was not the only year they were used. Otherwise I don't think they are legal for the regular TCS races.

Personally I havent had good luck with them, IVe toasted two of them on hot days, and they don't seem to have as much torque as the silver cans. Since we run on a small indoor layout, the silver cans actually tend to be faster most days.
Yeah, I just checked the TCS rules and at least for this year the Silver Can is specified for Mini, so I'll guess they're what'll be used at Nats. In fact they've got an in-depth look at what are (now) allowable vs dis-allowed Silver Can motors appended to the bottom of the rules on their site now.

Interesting to hear about the Black Cans though as I JUST picked one up last week buying a fleet of Minis (2 complete M03's, a complete M04 w/new Miata shell, and a raft load of parts, tires and wheels) and was curious to try it. I've run a Silver Can in Stock 1/12 as an experiment and found they had less torque than a Stock motor. Surprises me that a motor could have LESS torque, but that may be what was given to gain the rpms. Shame about 'em burning out on you though. Our layouts tend to be smaller and tighter like yours, so maybe I'll put the Black Can aside for a more appropriate test.
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Jeez...have I missed something? Someone update me where the black can and minis fit together under TCS regs. I'm only familiar with silver can for minis.

That said, those bad boys look like a HOOT to drive!
Last year we used silver cans at the regional races at nationals we used black cans. Same for this year...
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I just checked the TCS rules and at least for this year the Silver Can is specified for Mini, so I'll guess they're what'll be used at Nats.
Hey Scottrik,

Here's the deal on motors in Minis per the rules for TCS.

You are required to run a sliver can motor, per the TCS web site, for all of the Regional Events.

At the Nationals, which I am leaving for shortly, they have "Hand Out" black can motors and a spec, Orion 3300 V-Max, battery that you must run. The motors are numbered teched and you only get them when you are at the track. No taking them home and working magic on them.

The idea is to make the racing fair for everyone, if you win and go to Japan you will be racing a black can out there.

The black cans are a little faster, 18-20,000 RPM verses 12-13,000 RPM and have a little higher amp draw, 1.7 to 1.9 verse 1.0 to 1.3 on my Indigy motor checker. BUT they don't last any were near as long, like Tip Toe said when it's hot they just seem to go flat.
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