R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-28-2006, 10:32 AM   #2761
Tech Master
 
tamiyarcracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 1,634
Send a message via Yahoo to tamiyarcracer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreaseMonkey
Is there any way you can get an M04 chassis down to a short wheel base? My main issue is that there's very few RWD bodies available in the 225mm wheel base so if I can shorten it. I won't have to worry so much about getting new bodies when the time comes.
There is something I know someone is working on.

http://home.comcast.net/~ewippler/new.html
tamiyarcracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 01:05 PM   #2762
Tech Elite
 
tony gray's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia. Home of rc-mini.net
Posts: 3,213
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Interesting that they've gone the upper and lower chassis plate route whereas the Kai conversion had 2 side plates, as does the HPI.
tony gray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 01:23 PM   #2763
Tech Master
 
tamiyarcracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 1,634
Send a message via Yahoo to tamiyarcracer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tony gray
Interesting that they've gone the upper and lower chassis plate route whereas the Kai conversion had 2 side plates, as does the HPI.
My quess is for stiffness
tamiyarcracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 01:36 PM   #2764
Tech Elite
 
tony gray's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia. Home of rc-mini.net
Posts: 3,213
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

I wonder whether some flex might actually be desirable in an M04 chassis though? Rear end grip is vital and a bit of flex in the chassis may assist that? Hard to know really.
tony gray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 03:13 PM   #2765
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: land of mass unemployment
Posts: 1,314
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

Tony:

Hi,

Awesome Mini site you have going. just spent a ton of time there. too bad I live in the U.S. I'm going to be adding a Mini to my fleet of cars soon (most likely a M03m)
as we are starting up a Johnson class close to where I live.
and I love Mini's too bad I'm over 6' tall.

Tamiyaracer:

Hi,

I see in your sig you had (and sounds like) didn't like a SV-10. I'm wondering what you didn't like about it. (besides not being a Tamiya)????. and I like your Mini in your Avatar.

Thanks
__________________
Team Tekin, KoPropo, Power Push Batteries, Tempgun.com
PROTECT ME FROM THE THINGS I WANT.
THAT WHICH FEEDS ME DESTROYS ME.
Life is short - live it! Your only old when your dreams are replaced by regrets.
TimXLB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 04:03 PM   #2766
Tech Addict
 
slotcarrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 512
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default Help with the M04 Alfa

I just got my M03 dialed in for TCS class, what a fun car to drive.

My M04 Alfa on the other hand is very poor. I have the TA03 diff and Tamiya oil shocks shortened to 63mm with short springs.

Are there any good M04 set ups that I can use for TCS?
__________________
It's been said that politics is the second oldest profession, it bares a great similarity to the first.

Rod Littau
slotcarrod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 09:51 PM   #2767
Tech Addict
 
GreaseMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 552
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

I ran my M04 for the first time tonight although without the body as I wasn't able to pick it up in time.

I ran it with TRF threaded shocks all around and yellow springs that came with the shocks so it sat pretty high. Still, with the kit tyres on, the car ran surprisingly good although I was able to start lifting the inside front tyre on a few corners so it can't be far away from traction rolling. However, I just happen to be rummaging through my TC stuff and noticed that my foam tyres were trued to 60.25mm and at 28mm wide, they just fit on.

The car started off quite nicely up until I got some heat in the tyres and then the traction rolling started but it was controllable enough so that I could drive the track w/o too many issues although I managed to damage a foam tyre after traction rolling at the end of the main straight.

I'll have to pick up a set of the mini springs and see how that affects the car. At the moment, the front sits about 10mm+ off the ground which probably has a lot to do with the traction rolling.
__________________
I'm not a grown man playing with toys. I'm a hobbyist.
GreaseMonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 12:25 AM   #2768
Tech Master
 
tamiyarcracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 1,634
Send a message via Yahoo to tamiyarcracer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TimXLB
Tony:

Hi,

Awesome Mini site you have going. just spent a ton of time there. too bad I live in the U.S. I'm going to be adding a Mini to my fleet of cars soon (most likely a M03m)
as we are starting up a Johnson class close to where I live.
and I love Mini's too bad I'm over 6' tall.

Tamiyaracer:

Hi,

I see in your sig you had (and sounds like) didn't like a SV-10. I'm wondering what you didn't like about it. (besides not being a Tamiya)????. and I like your Mini in your Avatar.

Thanks
The biggest was good parts support. Kawada was in the US till about when I bought the car, then they pulled out of the US.
It was a good car, though
Thanks, that was the car I won the 2004 North Amercan Finals with.
tamiyarcracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 07:53 AM   #2769
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: land of mass unemployment
Posts: 1,314
Trader Rating: 14 (100%+)
Default

Tamiyaracer:

Hi,

I agree with you. good car no support. too bad...... the latest car is good to but again no support here in the U.S.
anyway. I'm still checking out the M03m waitiing for a good deal on one. and debating on what car(s) I should sell nobody needs 6 XRays. I have all of XRays touring cars ARTR up to the FK04 and the rest RTR after that. a couple of TA-05's, a couple of TL-01's, etc.
Ihave a long way to got to catch up with you tho!!!!!!!

Thanks
__________________
Team Tekin, KoPropo, Power Push Batteries, Tempgun.com
PROTECT ME FROM THE THINGS I WANT.
THAT WHICH FEEDS ME DESTROYS ME.
Life is short - live it! Your only old when your dreams are replaced by regrets.
TimXLB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 08:29 AM   #2770
Tech Addict
 
Jam-ehz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 592
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Send a message via ICQ to Jam-ehz
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slotcarrod
I just got my M03 dialed in for TCS class, what a fun car to drive.

My M04 Alfa on the other hand is very poor. I have the TA03 diff and Tamiya oil shocks shortened to 63mm with short springs.

Are there any good M04 set ups that I can use for TCS?
Here's my setup for carpet..

Front:
TRF Short White springs
TRF Shocks, 80 wt oil, 2-hole pistons, 2 o-rings, no rebound
S-Grips, moulded insert (hard to find), 1/3 traction compound on inside
Sway bar

Rear:
Short Fluorescent Red springs
TRF Shocks, 60 wt oil, 2-hole pistons, 3 o-rings, no rebound
Type A's, firm foam insert strip, full traction compound

5-6mm ride height all around

It's a very stiff setup in the front, and runs like a touring car.. no body roll for quick transitions, and at the same time I can run through the whole track full-throttle without flipping. If you need more steering, widen the strip of compound in the front.

Get the 2-degree rear uprights if you can, or just upgrade to the lightweight "M03M" set, it has 2 degrees already, and is very nimble.

Put the receiver and speedo on the sides like saddlebags, keeps the COG way low.

I use the alfa body for TCS, and the HPI Miata for the other races.. love the rear wing..

That's the basis of the setup, the rest is optional.. aluminum hexes, rear universals, carbon gearshafts, TA03 Ball Diff w/ lightweight plates, aluminum screws with a few Ti in spots, but it's not that necessary.

It won our last big Mini race, so it can't be too bad of a setup..
__________________
-=≡ Tamiya TA05 TRF415MSX F103R M-03R M-04 M-05 ≡=-
-=≡ CRC Carpet Knife 3.2 OFNA LD3 Pro Fastcats Spektrum ׀ווlı ≡=-
Jam-ehz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 10:32 AM   #2771
Tech Addict
 
slotcarrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 512
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam-ehz
Here's my setup for carpet..

Front:
TRF Short White springs
TRF Shocks, 80 wt oil, 2-hole pistons, 2 o-rings, no rebound
S-Grips, moulded insert (hard to find), 1/3 traction compound on inside
Sway bar

Rear:
Short Fluorescent Red springs
TRF Shocks, 60 wt oil, 2-hole pistons, 3 o-rings, no rebound
Type A's, firm foam insert strip, full traction compound

5-6mm ride height all around

It's a very stiff setup in the front, and runs like a touring car.. no body roll for quick transitions, and at the same time I can run through the whole track full-throttle without flipping. If you need more steering, widen the strip of compound in the front.

Get the 2-degree rear uprights if you can, or just upgrade to the lightweight "M03M" set, it has 2 degrees already, and is very nimble.

Put the receiver and speedo on the sides like saddlebags, keeps the COG way low.

I use the alfa body for TCS, and the HPI Miata for the other races.. love the rear wing..

That's the basis of the setup, the rest is optional.. aluminum hexes, rear universals, carbon gearshafts, TA03 Ball Diff w/ lightweight plates, aluminum screws with a few Ti in spots, but it's not that necessary.

It won our last big Mini race, so it can't be too bad of a setup..
Thanks Jam-ehz! That's just what I was looking for. It looks like you know what you are doing (very pro). Now I have to find the time and parts you listed. I have most of them (tires ect) for my Mini, but I am having a hard time finding the sway bars. Will the M03 sway bars work? And what's the "Jam" stand for?
Thanks again!
Rod
__________________
It's been said that politics is the second oldest profession, it bares a great similarity to the first.

Rod Littau
slotcarrod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 03:55 PM   #2772
Tech Champion
 
Core Creations's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Back in the booth
Posts: 5,629
Trader Rating: 91 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Core Creations
Default

Quick shock setup question for the veterans...How many o-rings should I use front and rear to limit droop. I am running an MO3M with the TRF dampers.
__________________
Core Creations paint thread

Mini Mafia Kansas Chapter - where the monster minis grow!
Core Creations is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 04:20 PM   #2773
Tech Master
 
tamiyarcracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 1,634
Send a message via Yahoo to tamiyarcracer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Creations
Quick shock setup question for the veterans...How many o-rings should I use front and rear to limit droop. I am running an MO3M with the TRF dampers.
I have found that orings are unpredictable.
I use spacers, the ones that come on the tree of pistons and shock parts.

As for how many, I usually start with the limiting the shocks so th arms are flat when theyou have no weight on the suspension (full down travel)
tamiyarcracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 04:33 PM   #2774
Tech Elite
 
tony gray's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia. Home of rc-mini.net
Posts: 3,213
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Or....dont use any at all.

We're having a lot of success with the 'no-limiter' setup with massive droop allowable. Just use the spring and the adjusters to set the ride height but let it all hang down...

Not entirely sure what the theory behind it is, but it works.
tony gray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 05:54 PM   #2775
Tech Champion
 
Core Creations's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Back in the booth
Posts: 5,629
Trader Rating: 91 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Core Creations
Default

Here's another question...are adjustable camber links TCS legal in the mini class??
__________________
Core Creations paint thread

Mini Mafia Kansas Chapter - where the monster minis grow!
Core Creations is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tamiya Mini Cooper M-03L Hop-ups mini71 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 4 05-04-2016 11:07 AM
Tamiya Mini Cooper mach51 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 10 09-02-2011 12:08 AM
FS:TAMIYA Mini Cooper, TA 04S rthmotorsports R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 10-20-2007 09:37 PM
Tamiya 415 MSX and M03 Mini Cooper F/S Racer X79 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 14 12-22-2006 07:38 AM
Tamiya M01,02,03, or 04 Mini Cooper ccugolf.com R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 2 12-05-2004 08:55 PM


Tags
m03, m03r ules, m05, mini, tamiya


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 4 (1 members and 3 guests)
gigaplex
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 07:04 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.0