R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-03-2014, 01:44 PM   #22321
Tech Master
 
EricF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,516
Default

Because the car is designed around round cells, not lipo's. Do the TCS rules allow the use of shorty lipos or do they have to round end lipo's?
__________________
<
AE 12R5.2 (x2) - TC7 - M05 - M05V2R

People who don't have to wait for the latest item, should not tell those that do, that "It's worth the wait"
EricF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 03:23 PM   #22322
Tech Addict
 
Pygmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 506
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EricF View Post
Because the car is designed around round cells, not lipo's. Do the TCS rules allow the use of shorty lipos or do they have to round end lipo's?
The M05 Pro V2 has a square battery compartment.
Quotes from the marketing page :
"The new tweaks and enhancements take advantage of new battery technologies"
"Special feature 1: New Feature: The chassis is compatible with square-shaped battery packs."

Regardless of TCS rules, why the trouble of a redesign and why make "supporting square battery packs" their big marketing gimmick if they won't even supply normal parts to secure that battery as they do for round stickpacks ?
__________________
"If it ain't broken, take it apart and see how it works."

LOSI Ten SCTE [ Build : http://bit.ly/VsAulx ]
Pygmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 04:22 PM   #22323
Tech Champion
 
monkeyracing's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SnowMexico
Posts: 5,843
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Still talking about this? Okay.

The round pack battery holder parts are a holdover from the days of NIMH stick pack batteries. They are still included because removing them would require changing a mold. Changing a mold is expensive.

They did not add new square battery holder parts for the same reason. Also,
they know that most racers will tape their batteries in anyway. The square battery hole is a generic size, meant to fit most of the "TC size" batteries on the market today.

That pretty much says it all.
monkeyracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 05:34 PM   #22324
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4
Default

Thanks guys for the tips. Still waiting on getting mine in the mail
tims06evomr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 05:45 PM   #22325
Tech Master
 
EricF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,516
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyracing View Post
Still talking about this? Okay.

That pretty much says it all.
Whew... thanks for clearing that up... I had planned on talking about it out for at lest one more day or two... LOL
__________________
<
AE 12R5.2 (x2) - TC7 - M05 - M05V2R

People who don't have to wait for the latest item, should not tell those that do, that "It's worth the wait"

Last edited by EricF; 11-04-2014 at 08:20 AM.
EricF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 03:16 AM   #22326
Tech Adept
 
marcos graveyar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Newtownforbes, Ireland
Posts: 211
Send a message via AIM to marcos graveyar
Default

Some more M05 Ver.II Pro parts announced.
54613 OP1613 M-05 Ver.II Stainless Steel Suspension Shaft Set
54614 OP1614 M-05 Ver.II Carbon Reinforecd L Parts (Suspension Arms)
54615 OP1615 M-05 Ver.II 3 x 58mm Titanium Coated Suspension Shaft (2 pieces)
54623 OP1623 M Chassis Ring Fixed Type Wheel Axel
marcos graveyar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 10:37 AM   #22327
Tech Champion
 
monkeyracing's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SnowMexico
Posts: 5,843
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

What is a "ring fixed type wheel axle"? It got lost in translation somewhere.
monkeyracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2014, 11:42 PM   #22328
Tech Elite
 
sosidge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 3,811
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyracing View Post
What is a "ring fixed type wheel axle"? It got lost in translation somewhere.
Probably using a clip to hold the uj pin in rather than the grub screw. Its a standard part on the current Tc and buggy ujs, they work well.
sosidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2014, 12:18 AM   #22329
Tech Champion
 
monkeyracing's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SnowMexico
Posts: 5,843
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

Makes sense. Thanks!
__________________
Stab it and steer.
monkeyracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2014, 12:37 AM   #22330
Tech Elite
 
niznai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: All over the place
Posts: 2,746
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sosidge View Post
Probably using a clip to hold the uj pin in rather than the grub screw. Its a standard part on the current Tc and buggy ujs, they work well.
You mean this kind of thing?

http://www.yeahracing.com/catalog/im...tt02-015-1.jpg

They already have those axles in the TRF418 kits, would anything be different for the mini (I am thinking the wheel pin to bearing shoulder length might be different)?
__________________
Team Greasy Weasel

The best upgrade to any car is some driver skill.
niznai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2014, 04:42 PM   #22331
Tech Addict
 
Pygmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 506
Default

Hi, I've just put my freshly built M05 Pro V2 on the (carpet) track for the first time, and it's a blast !

I had 2 main problems :
- there was no way to keep the car straight on the straight. It would either go left or right but not straight ahead.
- the rear was constantly breaking out. I made a lot of nice 180's, a couple of 360's and a few nice 720's. Looked great, but wasn't my intention.

The steering problem was two-fold; the servo saver somehow had some slack in it so it was possible to move the steering arm a little bit while the servo didn't move, and one of the plastic arms in the steering linkage didn't rotate freely around the screw but needed some force to be rotated.

I put on a 3racing servo saver that was available at the track which fixed the servosaver-slop, and I used a body reamer to *slightly* widen the hole in the plastic steering arm so it could rotate freely.
This made the car steer perfectly and suddenly going straight on the straight end wasn't a problem anymore. Yay !

But now for the rear breaking out. As mentioned, I'm running on carpet. As this was my first time on the track, I didn't have / use any traction compound.
I don't know if the rear breaking out (excessively) would be solved just by traction compound (I don't think so though), or needs some more car-tuning.

Any advice (or pointers to advice / links / related pagenumbers in this thread) on getting my car to behave better would be much appreciated!
(I used both RCTech search function and all my Google-Fu but I'm not sure what keywords I should be using)
__________________
"If it ain't broken, take it apart and see how it works."

LOSI Ten SCTE [ Build : http://bit.ly/VsAulx ]
Pygmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2014, 04:42 PM   #22332
Tech Addict
 
Pygmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 506
Default

Hi, I've just put my freshly built M05 Pro V2 on the (carpet) track for the first time, and it's a blast !

I had 2 main problems :
- there was no way to keep the car straight on the straight. It would either go left or right but not straight ahead.
- the rear was breaking out a lot. I could make some nice corners, and suddenly it would spin out. I made a lot of nice 180's, a couple of 360's and a few nice 720's. Looked spectacular, but wasn't my intention.

The steering problem was two-fold; the servo saver somehow had some slack in it so it was possible to move the steering arm a little bit while the servo didn't move, and one of the plastic arms in the steering linkage didn't rotate freely around the screw but needed some force to be rotated.
I put on a 3racing servo saver that was available at the track which fixed the servosaver-slop, and I used a body reamer to *slightly* widen the hole in the plastic steering arm so it could rotate freely.
This made the car steer / center perfectly and suddenly going straight on the straight end wasn't a problem anymore. Yay !

But now for the rear breaking out. As mentioned, I'm running on carpet.
I'm using Sweep 33 tires all around.
5mm ride height.
Blue springs in front, 40wt shock oil.
Yellow springs in rear, 35wt shock oil.
Stock diff with anti-wear grease.
As this was my first time on the track, I didn't have / use any traction compound.
I don't know if the rear breaking out (excessively) would be solved just by traction compound (I don't think so though), or needs some more car-tuning.

Any advice (or pointers to advice / links / related pagenumbers in this thread) on getting my car to behave better would be much appreciated!
(Apologies if this has been answered tons of times before but I used both RCTech search function and all my Google-Fu to no avail - I'm not sure what keywords I should be using)
__________________
"If it ain't broken, take it apart and see how it works."

LOSI Ten SCTE [ Build : http://bit.ly/VsAulx ]

Last edited by Pygmy; 11-07-2014 at 05:12 PM.
Pygmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2014, 04:21 AM   #22333
Tech Adept
 
marcos graveyar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Newtownforbes, Ireland
Posts: 211
Send a message via AIM to marcos graveyar
Default

What shock set-up/rear camber/tyre/insert settings were you using ?
marcos graveyar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2014, 06:02 AM   #22334
Tech Addict
 
Pygmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 506
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by marcos graveyar View Post
What shock set-up/rear camber/tyre/insert settings were you using ?
Sweep 33 pre-mountd tires.
Default kit camber,
5mm ride height,
Blue springs in front, 40wt shock oil.
Yellow springs in rear, 35wt shock oil.
__________________
"If it ain't broken, take it apart and see how it works."

LOSI Ten SCTE [ Build : http://bit.ly/VsAulx ]
Pygmy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2014, 06:06 AM   #22335
Tech Adept
 
marcos graveyar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Newtownforbes, Ireland
Posts: 211
Send a message via AIM to marcos graveyar
Default

Are you sure you have the rear hubs on the correct side ?
marcos graveyar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tamiya Mini Cooper M-03L Hop-ups mini71 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 4 05-04-2016 11:07 AM
Tamiya Mini Cooper mach51 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 10 09-02-2011 12:08 AM
FS:TAMIYA Mini Cooper, TA 04S rthmotorsports R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 10-20-2007 09:37 PM
Tamiya 415 MSX and M03 Mini Cooper F/S Racer X79 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 14 12-22-2006 07:38 AM
Tamiya M01,02,03, or 04 Mini Cooper ccugolf.com R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 2 12-05-2004 08:55 PM


Tags
m03, m03r ules, m05, mini, tamiya


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (0 members and 5 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 12:56 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.0