R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-10-2013, 02:19 AM   #19051
Dan
Tech Elite
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,189
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Anyone know why the M06 Pro is discontinued? I remember seeing it in stock not too long ago... same with the M05 Pro...
Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 06:45 AM   #19052
MD
Tech Elite
 
MD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,584
Trader Rating: 102 (100%+)
Default

It's discontinued on the Tamiya site.
MD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 08:54 AM   #19053
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,367
Default

Never understood the why for the M05 Pro. It was so much better to buy the stock kit then add our own selection of upgrades.

If the M06 Pro kit was anything like the M05 Pro, it did not have the "good" upgrades. My guess would be that they did a small run of these kits and sales were too slow to warrant another.

So far all the Pro versions of the current Minis were not a good value IMH0.
Granpa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 09:12 AM   #19054
Dan
Tech Elite
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,189
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MD View Post
It's discontinued on the Tamiya site.
Thank you captain obvious.

Granpa, the big ones for me were the ball bearings and oil shocks. Was nice to have a bit of blue bling. Oddly enough, I never broke any of the clear shocks on my previous M06 Pro. Going to keep my eyes out, otherwise, may have to just bite the bullet and order a regular kit.
Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 10:46 AM   #19055
Tech Elite
 
orcadigital's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 2,145
Trader Rating: 61 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan View Post
Anyone know why the M06 Pro is discontinued? I remember seeing it in stock not too long ago... same with the M05 Pro...
My understanding is that the M06Pro was supposed to be a limited edition item, hence all the red bling that was not available in any other way. From the folks at the LHS, they said it was a limited edition that would only be available for a short time.

The M06Pro kit also had a lot of the good upgrades, including upgraded shocks (aluminum, not the claear plastic), bearings, and the highly sought after rear axle weights. Not quite perfect out of the box, but closer then a standard kit by leaps.

All of this is second hand, as I have an M05, but the M06 is very popular at the local track.
__________________
Desoto Racing * Serpent America * Boca Bearings

"I was doing fine until about mid-corner when I ran out of talent."
orcadigital is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 10:52 AM   #19056
Dan
Tech Elite
 
Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,189
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

I think you mean the M06R. I knew it would be limited edition but wasn't too worried about that. The M06 Pro was available for the longest time (I originally bought my M05 Pro in early 2009, and my M06 Pro in mid 2011).

Sold both of them mainly because at my local track, the fixed gearing was a huge disadvantage. But now that I got high speed gears (thanks monkeyracing!), I'm in the market for a new M06 again. Don't want a used chassis though.
Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 04:46 PM   #19057
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,367
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirSwiftAlot View Post
Hello all mini guys I am selling the majority (not all ) of my mini stuff. And I have lots of it! What ever you need I more then likely have it from parts to full cars. If you want me to build a full car just let me know. It will be full race ready minus electronics and motor. In have several items that are discontinued just let me know what you need and I will give you a price. I am selling it very much lower then u can by on the web for. Tires, cars, parts, a few body's some esc's with silver can set ups etc. who and for the TCS guys I have several sets of 1-4 run premounted s grips. Good luck all talk to you later
Most of the local guys picked up on this post, but I suspect many of you didn't. In case you're not familiar with SirSwiftAlot, he's Brandon K (never could spell his last name) who was the 2010 and 2011 TCS Nationals Mini Champ. Talked to him briefly today, when I picked the S-Grips he had, but he has a lot of good stuff for sale.

He's selling his 2010 winning car, an M05M and the 2011 winning car, a M03M. He also has a lot of Deven Whites stuff. Deven was also a 2 time Nationals champ in Mini. Don't know all the details of all the stuff he has for sale, but it's a rare opportunity to pick up two proven race winners. Send him a PM cause they were priced pretty cheap for what they were.

And yes, it is possible to win the Nats twice in unusual circumstances.
Granpa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 11:39 AM   #19058
Tech Addict
 
AngryRog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: SoCal
Posts: 613
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Default

Since this thread had slowed, I'd have to say after four sessions as a newbie with my M03, once dialed, mini's are super fun. Then again, everyone here already knows...
__________________
Anger, K-Speed, Mini Mafia, NitroHouse.com
M03, M05v2 Pro, FF03-R, TA05v2, TRF419X, Roche P12
AngryRog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 12:15 PM   #19059
Tech Master
 
edhchoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: vancouver, wa, usa
Posts: 1,509
Trader Rating: 41 (100%+)
Default

How soon do you guys rotate the tires? As often as possible to keep them all equally worn or what? Thx.
edhchoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 12:48 PM   #19060
Tech Elite
 
sosidge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 3,811
Default

Always keep them on the same axle, rotate left to right as often as you feel necessary to even out the wear and get the most out of a set. swapping between race meetings should be more than often enough. i get hardly any wear on the tyres with the racing i do so it isn't something i worry about.
sosidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 02:50 PM   #19061
Tech Champion
 
monkeyracing's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SnowMexico
Posts: 5,836
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Default

M03s are fun! Off season sucks. Our last race was June 2. The next is July 14. I rotate tires left/right every few heats.
__________________
Stab it and steer.
monkeyracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 12:06 AM   #19062
Tech Adept
 
rramjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Everett WA in the Summer Mesa AZ in the Winter
Posts: 114
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

OK took my M03 to the track today with it's new Johnson motor, Tekin RS ESC and new S Grip premounts. These were all upgrades since the last race. Car was much faster however I had horrible traction roll. The asphalt had really good traction. Running 3Racing shocks with little or no rebound ,40W front 35W rear, blue Tamiya front springs and yellow rear. Sway bars were recommended so I installed them front a rear, (the large ones). Traction roll a little better but had to drive very carefully to avoid it. Also noticed a lot of outside rear wheel chattering coming out of turns maybe sway bar action.

The reading I've done on the subject so far has been TC focused where a lot more adjustments are available and opinions seem to be divided between softening the suspension or stiffening it as I did.

Softening seems to make more sense to me so the suspension takes up more of the roll before the tires have to start dealing with it but maybe that would actually induce more ultimate force on the tires.

I attribute most of the problem to the S Grip Premounts. I've seen comments indicating they are softer than previous with lots of sidewall flex.

These are my thoughts for a cure:

Lower ride height

Glue the front tire sidewall

Add more weight to the car.

Any thoughts?
rramjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 12:22 AM   #19063
Tech Elite
 
sosidge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 3,811
Default

I've yet to see a set of 3Racing shocks that work properly. Unless you got lucky and yours are Tamiya-smooth, bin them and get the real deal.

Most chattering sounds in my experience are due to a lack of droop and being under-damped. I always build the car with about 0.5mm-1mm of shock extension above ride height.

Arms level as ride height is a sound starting point, you can try running a little lower but I don't think you would ever want to run higher unless the track is very bumpy.

I don't find that glued sidewalls on the abrasive asphalt make much difference compared to the big difference they make on carpet but it might be worth trying.

I don't usually run bars outdoors but if I run them on carpet I stick to the softer one and just run it on the rear.

I don't see the point in adding weight. Makes the car slower everywhere.

As far as soft/hard settings to combat traction roll, it helps to work out what kind of traction roll you have.

If the car snaps into a roll at the start of a turn, then the weight transfer is too fast and the car is too hard - so soften it.

If the car gets up on it's side slowly and rolls mid-corner, the suspension is too soft - so stiffen it.

Just my thoughts, no doubt someone else on here has much better ones, hope they help.
sosidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 04:45 AM   #19064
Tech Elite
 
VooDooPH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Philippines
Posts: 3,714
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Send a message via Yahoo to VooDooPH
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edhchoe View Post
How soon do you guys rotate the tires? As often as possible to keep them all equally worn or what? Thx.
depends on what tires you run... i run S-grips on all 4 sides... recently found that i can't keep the the tires on the same wheel for too long... front tires break-in a lot faster than the rears and end up grabbing on corner entry (at least that's what i felt). after running 3 heats, my car was all over the place... switched tires front to rear and it all was good after...
__________________
[TRF418][TB-04Pro][FF-03Pro][M-05v2][TRF102][F-104 WGP][TT-01R TypeE]
[Cross CF-01'08][Yokomo R12][Team C TC02Evo][Team C T8E v3]
VooDooPH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 08:32 AM   #19065
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,367
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rramjet View Post

These are my thoughts for a cure:

Lower ride height

Glue the front tire sidewall

Add more weight to the car.

Any thoughts?
I'm curious, why do you think adding weight to the car would help a traction roll problem?????
Granpa is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tamiya Mini Cooper M-03L Hop-ups mini71 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 4 05-04-2016 11:07 AM
Tamiya Mini Cooper mach51 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 10 09-02-2011 12:08 AM
FS:TAMIYA Mini Cooper, TA 04S rthmotorsports R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 10-20-2007 09:37 PM
Tamiya 415 MSX and M03 Mini Cooper F/S Racer X79 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 14 12-22-2006 07:38 AM
Tamiya M01,02,03, or 04 Mini Cooper ccugolf.com R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 2 12-05-2004 08:55 PM


Tags
m03, m03r ules, m05, mini, tamiya


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 05:03 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.0