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Old 07-12-2006, 04:44 AM   #1756
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Jeff,

53217 Touring Car Hard Joint cup set (for ball diff) suits Manta ray or Ta03 ball diff

53218 Touring Car Hard Joint cup set (for gear diff)
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:15 AM   #1757
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Thanks Dan, do you know anywhere that has them in stock?
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:43 AM   #1758
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Just picking at Doc his a buddy too hehe
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Old 07-12-2006, 07:54 AM   #1759
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Default tamiya m04m setup for low traction asphault

I tried to find a setup for an m04m on low grip parking lot asphault and was unsuccessful, so this is to help others: (won tcs local race twice)

1) shocks: I use tamiya gold shocks from ta03 days (new trf shocks are the same length)
a) 2 hole pistons and 25 weight associated oil front and rear.
b) front short red springs, rear short yellow springs (old tuned short springs)
c) front uptravel and downtravel limiters, down travel 4mm, uptravel 2mm
(downtravel goes inside shock, uptravel goes outside shock on shaft)
d) rear uptravel and downtravel limiters, down travel 4mm, uptravel 3mm
e) 1mm extra preload in rear left shock (to compensate for the motors weight)

the reason the front needs up and down travel limiters is to move the suspension into a higher natural position and to limit the droop (less front droop means increased on power steering) (otherwise at full suspension compression, the front tires toe in too much causing the car to push, and there is too much camber causing the tire to wear unevenly), same thing for the rear, but it is more to limit camber change

2) Gear diff in the back with .2mm 10mm spacers added to each side in addition to the standard washers and anti wear grease inside the gear diff

3) 1 degree toe out in the front (the toe out turns to neutral as the suspension is compressed in a corner)

4) 2 degree toe in blocks in the rear

5) s grips with hard foam inserts in the front (s grips must be in good shape or the car will drift on the straights), a slicks with hard foam inserts in the rear

6) sway bar in the back (modified m03 sway bars (use short plastic links on top and bottom, this makes the swaybar link shorter)

Other hop ups on the car:
m03 aluminum steering blocks (not necessary, but adds weight to the front end for more grip)
tl01 suspension shafts
full ball bearings
adjustable steering turnbuckles
m04 motor heatsink (doesn't do much, but I can put a 20 tooth into the 19 tooth setting and the heatsink keeps everything lined up)

Hope this helps somebody.
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:35 PM   #1760
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Where can you buy the silver can kit motors? -Ky
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:26 PM   #1761
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Stupid question here but i will ask it anyway...

What chasis comes with Suzuki swift body??? is it Mo3 just like mini cooper???
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It is a M03M which is a standard M03 with a medium spacer in the chassis. This gives a wheelbase between a standard Mini and the BMW variety.
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:40 PM   #1763
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It is a M03M which is a standard M03 with a medium spacer in the chassis. This gives a wheelbase between a standard Mini and the BMW variety.

Oh i see...alryt, tnx.
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I ran my 4 wheel drive Tamiya Mini Cooper yesteday in a charity race ( small track in a parking lot and thay said I could run it with the other minis) in Geln Burnie, MD and here is the summary:

BTW, I took a TL01 body and cut/shaped/glued/etc so it has the wheel base of the mini cooper, modified the shaft... BTW, NOT THE LONG version....
I used mini parts for everything else except the chassis... 4 months in the making, getting the shaft just right was the biggest problem....
I used the stock "diff" in the rear and a locked/packed diff in the front with a 23 tooth pinion.... Silver can motor and a 2 year old 3300 stick pack battery...

I had a expert racer take it for a spin ( He is one of the area's best mini driver so I could get a real good and honest opinion ). He was amazed on how well the car handled the infield, very few minis could touch it in the infield. The straight away was another story, a little slow but it made up for it on the rest of the track... So I am going to put ball diffs in the front and rear to see if I can get some of the speed back on the straight away.

I'll try and gets some pics tonight and post them tomorrow with out the electronics. A number of people has expressed a lot of interest in this car and the they were amazed on how well it looked exactly like a mini and handled like a 4 wheel drive car.
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hi,

Just a quick Q,
which is the best mini M -chassis (Mini) in handling?M03L or 03.
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hi,

Just a quick Q,
which is the best mini M -chassis (Mini) in handling?M03L or 03.
the "L" is easierto drive and on wide open tracks and no tight corners.

The shorter version has less weight ( the expander and the the body ) and can turn on a dime and leave change. Traction roll can become an issue as well..
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Just a quick Q,
which is the best mini M -chassis (Mini) in handling?M03L or 03.
the mo3m is a good allrounder for most tracks
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Talking Best all around tire for mo3?

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Can anyone recommend the best all around tire for hot weather, compound surfaced tracks? Just bought a mo3 and have stocks on to run around, but I'll need to change for racing. Got any idea's?

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Can anyone recommend the best all around tire for hot weather, compound surfaced tracks? Just bought a mo3 and have stocks on to run around, but I'll need to change for racing. Got any idea's?

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I ran my 4 wheel drive Tamiya Mini Cooper yesteday in a charity race ( small track in a parking lot and thay said I could run it with the other minis) in Geln Burnie, MD and here is the summary:

BTW, I took a TL01 body and cut/shaped/glued/etc so it has the wheel base of the mini cooper, modified the shaft... BTW, NOT THE LONG version....
I used mini parts for everything else except the chassis... 4 months in the making, getting the shaft just right was the biggest problem....
I used the stock "diff" in the rear and a locked/packed diff in the front with a 23 tooth pinion.... Silver can motor and a 2 year old 3300 stick pack battery...

I had a expert racer take it for a spin ( He is one of the area's best mini driver so I could get a real good and honest opinion ). He was amazed on how well the car handled the infield, very few minis could touch it in the infield. The straight away was another story, a little slow but it made up for it on the rest of the track... So I am going to put ball diffs in the front and rear to see if I can get some of the speed back on the straight away.

I'll try and gets some pics tonight and post them tomorrow with out the electronics. A number of people has expressed a lot of interest in this car and the they were amazed on how well it looked exactly like a mini and handled like a 4 wheel drive car.

We did that a year ago here in the Philippines. I still have mine collecting dust in the drawer. We also did a monster version of shorten wheel base of TLo1.
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