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Old 11-15-2011, 08:18 PM   #1156
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What are people's thoughts on the inboard shock setup on the TA06? I have a pro coming in the mail, and was just curious if there are any advantages other than using low-slung bodies to this setup. Pro's and con's of each? Thanks in advance.
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Ive been wondering also...
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tamiya sells a few different foam bumpers, all for TB03/Evo5/etc will fit
come in different shapes & sizes - now also in grey or black
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What are people's thoughts on the inboard shock setup on the TA06? I have a pro coming in the mail, and was just curious if there are any advantages other than using low-slung bodies to this setup. Pro's and con's of each? Thanks in advance.
i've got both running side by side

no 'huge' con with IFS on TA06, seems to work like conventional.
I can't tell much difference between either car's handling
that can be directly attributed to the IFS alone (running sedan shells*)

otoh its extra mechanical bits to fail & fall off


*btw "low-slung" shells create more front downforce further forwards
so you'll be retuning the front suspension stiffer to compensate which can
affect cornering handling too... hard to compare JGTC/lemans vs tourer
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:41 PM   #1160
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Right on, thanks for the info WC.
On the topic of stiffening up the front to compensate, how stiff are we talking? (Where did you start?) Thanks again.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:09 PM   #1161
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I also built (2) TA06 Pro kits, one for me with stand up front shocks, and the other kit for the owner at my Local Hobby shop, with IFS.

I agree, I don't notice any appreciable difference in handling (yet).

Currently, both cars have low track time.

The IFS is smooth, but you'll have to set up the pushrods carefully, (same length) so your geometry is the same left and right.

Tuning IFS, is different from stand up. Example, adding or removing shims at the rocker, changes the mechanical leverage of the shocks. (Haven't got that far playing with the IFS settings)

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Old 11-15-2011, 09:09 PM   #1162
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Start with 25 or 30 springs not sure what that equivalents into Pounds.
I am running 25 or 30 on my TA05 and so is my friend on a TA06 with IFS
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:49 PM   #1163
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Start with 25 or 30 springs not sure what that equivalents into Pounds.
I am running 25 or 30 on my TA05 and so is my friend on a TA06 with IFS
Are we talking 25-30wt oil? kinda light?
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:51 PM   #1164
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nevermind, I should read the post more careful, lol.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:12 PM   #1165
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Heheheh no Springs as you already found out.

Shocks i think i am running 35 or 30 with 2 hole pistons instead 3.
Forgot what it was but its been working =D
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I remember the tuning was definately different when I had raced my F201. Being inboard all the way around, it was just different enough to give you a headache, but once I got the hang of it, I found so many different ways to tune the car. Different way of doing the same thing I suppose.
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Use this method shown here at the bottom to set droop. Its the absolute best way because you are measuring at the wheel and not some random suspension part which is different from car to car. Camber adjustment can affect droop as well and measuring at the arm bottom cannot detect the droop change that happens when you adjust camber.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/fe...article-id=583

With this method my front axle is 24mm and the rear is 25mm.
Well : Very good way to measure it... I will check mine.

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^ I noticed the TRF setup sheets reference this measurement style.
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i've got both running side by side

no 'huge' con with IFS on TA06, seems to work like conventional.
I can't tell much difference between either car's handling
that can be directly attributed to the IFS alone (running sedan shells*)

otoh its extra mechanical bits to fail & fall off


*btw "low-slung" shells create more front downforce further forwards
so you'll be retuning the front suspension stiffer to compensate which can
affect cornering handling too... hard to compare JGTC/lemans vs tourer
Im not a pro, buy why not just put heavier weight in the front diff to take away some steering ect? (I could be wrong here...)
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I was reading a post here on the boards (but I forgot what page) where someone has just shimmed their universals. What does that mean, why is it done and how? Is this something I need to do to my kit and will the shims be in the kit?
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