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Old 06-03-2004, 03:39 PM   #5191
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Old 06-03-2004, 03:41 PM   #5192
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I think you're reaching there...LOL

Good alignment machines *measure* toe at each wheel and give the measurement for each wheel, but the spec is the total of the two sides.

If the spec is .750" +/- .250" toe-in, and you have .500" on the right and .750" on the left, then you have 1.250" toe, which would be .500" too much. You wouldn't add toe to get them both to .750", because that would be 1.500" total. You did see the little box on the screen that's between the wheels, right? You know, the one that says "TOE"?

I'm not sure what side of this you were trying to take at this point, but "big" car toe is most assuredly measured the way Pops said.
Right. But if you refer to what we are talking about "spec" doesn't apply to r/c.
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:11 PM   #5193
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Pro4 parts are getting expensive..
check this price out:

http://www.allspeedhobbies.com/catal...roducts_id=536
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:16 PM   #5194
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Damn, I need one for each of my cars
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:34 PM   #5195
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does anyone know if HPI Japan have released their new the 3mm lower chassis and 2.5mm upper deck?

Thanks in advance!
www.apexmodels.com has the 3mm chassis in (they shop worldwide also)
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:48 PM   #5196
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Pro4 parts are getting expensive..
check this price out:

http://www.allspeedhobbies.com/catal...roducts_id=536
but it says you get 75104 of them

why is the price so high?

is it meant to be in yen?
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:48 PM   #5197
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:53 PM   #5198
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Yes!...Thank You...I sent email...
You did send an email?
lol...
Didn't get it then
anyways, since you are such a wonderful seller. I left a feedback at the feedback forums.

My pro 4 looks so beautiful!!!

when you chip gears do you chip the smaller or the larger bevel?

there is a small chip on my big bevel but i think it is gonna be ok...

Maybe i was WRONG about the PRP brace... I thought it wasn't neceicery item but I don't know now...
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:56 PM   #5199
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You did send an email?
lol...
Didn't get it then
anyways, since you are such a wonderful seller. I left a feedback at the feedback forums.

My pro 4 looks so beautiful!!!

when you chip gears do you chip the smaller or the larger bevel?

there is a small chip on my big bevel but i think it is gonna be ok...

Maybe i was WRONG about the PRP brace... I thought it wasn't neceicery item but I don't know now...
PRP Brace...best investment you can make...it could mean finishing a race or not...
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Old 06-03-2004, 07:08 PM   #5200
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PRP Brace...best investment you can make...it could mean finishing a race or not...

yes it is, i just raced my pro4 on tuesday and i think if i didnt have that brace i wouldnt have finished first in my main, took a hard hit try to pass a slower driver lol oops

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Old 06-03-2004, 07:16 PM   #5201
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but it says you get 75104 of them

why is the price so high?

is it meant to be in yen?
Someone fat fingered that one. Looks like it's the part number.
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Old 06-03-2004, 07:24 PM   #5202
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Downforce;

When I double check my Car that has the 3 degree toe block currently installed. I am reading 1.5 degrees PER side/Wheel.

My Pro-3 which has the 2 degree block in it, measures 1 degree PER side.

These are taken with a set of Integy alignment gauges, so accuracy is spot on.

Either way, I have always used the combined measurement when setting toe and 3 degrees (or 2.5) PER side is excessive, especially for an Electric Car.
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Downforce;

When I double check my Car that has the 3 degree toe block currently installed. I am reading 1.5 degrees PER side/Wheel.

My Pro-3 which has the 2 degree block in it, measures 1 degree PER side.

These are taken with a set of Integy alignment gauges, so accuracy is spot on.

Either way, I have always used the combined measurement when setting toe and 3 degrees (or 2.5) PER side is excessive, especially for an Electric Car.
I have measured my own pro4 and the numbers on the block, represent the toe on each side.

Perhaps something on your car is tweaked, or you're using some other block on the front of the hingepins for the rear suspension.

As it is, there is no reason why HPI would limit the toe-in on the rear to 1.5 degrees on each side, not to mention that Hara and other HPI factory drivers are obviously running more toe-in than you. So how do you explain that discrepency??

For all you know, you're using a mislabeled block, and your case may be the only one in this forum. Its best not to confuse the majority of drivers just because your car seems to be "unique".
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Old 06-03-2004, 08:35 PM   #5204
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Forgot... I used a Hudy system to measure the toe.
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Old 06-03-2004, 09:48 PM   #5205
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As for the toe setting, it is per side. So the 3 degree is 3 degrees per side. It is the same as camber. You wouldn't set one side at -0.75 degree and the other at -0.75 and mark it as a total of -1.5 degrees of camber. Some manufacturers may do it that way with the toe, but we chose to follow full scale practice in this area.
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