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Old 08-14-2003, 05:02 PM   #181
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Greg Hill from HPI Europe said 299 pounds which would be around $480 in the states.
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I'm hoping he meant that was the Retail and not the Street Price
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Greg Hill from HPI Europe said 299 pounds which would be around $480 in the states.
It's always more expensive across the ocean... I'm thinking approx $300.00 street price range.
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Old 08-14-2003, 05:12 PM   #184
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I think it'll be $240
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Where's Bob Barker when you need him?

Do I hear a dollar?!
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One thing that is good about HPI. Is that generally when they post info on their cars on their site, within 4-6 weeks it's on the market. These guys don't drag their feet like Associated's TC3 and Novaks brushless system. Just to name a couple.
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Old 08-14-2003, 05:50 PM   #189
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Frank McKinney - I'd like to get the car when it's available, but I'm tired of buying cars and then spending $1,000 upgrading it. I wanted to know if there were plans for a fully Hopped-up version. Like a Hara edition that I should wait for.
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Woven Graphite Main Chassis
Woven Graphite Upper Deck
Woven Graphite Shock Towers
Woven Graphite Steering Plate
Purple Titanium Turnbuckles
MIP CVD's, Purple aluminum of course!
Carbon Plastic: Arms, Uprights, Hub Carriers, Steering Blocks, and Gearboxes
Carbide Ball Differential
Front One-way
Aluminum Threaded Shocks with Bladders
Aluminum Main Drive Shaft
Aluminum Motor Mount
Aluminum Spur Gear Adapter
Aluminum Hex Clamp Hubs w/ adjustable Track (Width)
Efficient 64 Pitch Spur and Pinion Gears
Socket (Hex) Screws and Fasteners used throughout chassis
Pre-cut Urethane Foam Bumper
Drive Ratio: 2.4375
High Quality Ball Bearings used throughout (24)


Front Suspension Features:

Adjustable Camber - via turnbuckles
Adjustable Caster - with included 0, 2, 4, and 6 degree uprights.
Adjustable Toe - via turnbuckles
Variable Ackerman - via the steering plate and geometry design with adjustment holes
Bump Steer - adjustable via shims (washers)
Adjustable Roll Center - via shims under the pivot blocks
Vertical Inner Camber Link Adjustment - via mounting location and height with shims/ washers. 2 inboard locations
Adjustable Down Stops (Droop) - via round point set screws
Shock Mounting Positions - optimized for progressive wheel rates with 3 holes on the tower and two holes on the arm.
Anti-Dive/ Kick-up - adjusted with washers
Anti-Roll Bar


Rear Suspension Features:

Adjustable Camber - via Turnbuckles
Adjustable Toe - via Pivot Blocks (2.5, 3.0, and 3.5)
Adjustable Roll Center - via shims under the pivot blocks
Vertical Inner Camber Link Adjustment - via mounting location and height with shims/ washers. 2 inboard locations and 2 hub locations
Adjustable Down Stops (Droop) - via round point set screws
Shock Mounting Positions - optimized for progressive wheel rates with 4 holes on the tower and 3 holes on the arm.
Anti-Squat - adjusted with washers
Wheelbase Adjustment - via washers
Anti-Roll Bar


General Features:

Top to bottom mounting of gearbox for precise alignment and mesh of gears
Carbon Plastics used to increase rigidity and reduce component weight for better chassis response and tuning
Adjustable, variable Ackerman steering geometry to increase steering feel and increase corner speed
Completely ball raced steering assembly for smooth steering with reduced play
Crank integrated servo saver with adjustable tension
Included ride height and droop gauge for accurate suspension adjustment.
Pivot Ball Block adjustments to maintain suspension precision and to reduce mis-alignment of the suspension pins.
3mm inboard suspension shafts for strength and 2.5mm outboard shafts for reduced weight and improved wheel clearance
Set screws used to retain outboard suspension shafts for easier maintenance
Overall lightweight chassis for best performance and adjustable ballast positioning with optional ballast weights.
Low center of gravity and centralized weight for improved cornering power and overall responsiveness.
Reduced unsprung weight for increased response and improved control
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What else do you need? Look what comes with it. The only thing I'm going to do is buy 2 cars at first. For spares and mainly for a second ball diff. I'm not use to running a front one-way. But that's me and it's not going to stop me.

I'm sure there is going to be a few needed hop ups, but all the cars out there do.

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Frank McKinney - I'd like to get the car when it's available, but I'm tired of buying cars and then spending $1,000 upgrading it. I wanted to know if there were plans for a fully Hopped-up version. Like a Hara edition that I should wait for.
THe stock version is pretty much well equipped... on the Hara Edition... I could see more purple option parts on it.. like alum. front body post and arms mounts etc.
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:49 PM   #192
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Guys;

The pre-production pictures look quite nice. My only REAL concern is all of the Woven Graphite used in the Car.

My Pro-2 had severe Glitching problems due to Bad Graphite. Something to do with the Graphite Matting and the direction of the weave. Never could get it to not glitch.

I just hope this won't be a problem with the NEW Car.
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Old 08-15-2003, 08:22 AM   #193
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Oh man! What radio are you using? I have never had any glitching problems with my M8? Sometimes stock and spec motors have been known to cause some serious glitching...ask Frank ? But I have never heard of curtain weave patterns causing glitching. Weird. Maybe we can make special low frequency super soft fiberglass chassis for you
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Old 08-15-2003, 10:27 AM   #194
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Frank McKinney - I'd like to get the car when it's available, but I'm tired of buying cars and then spending $1,000 upgrading it. I wanted to know if there were plans for a fully Hopped-up version. Like a Hara edition that I should wait for.
You're being sarcastic right?? good one
The Pro4 is LOADED.... oh wait! it doesn't have alloy body mounts and titanium body clips!
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Old 08-15-2003, 11:31 AM   #195
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Oh man! What radio are you using? I have never had any glitching problems with my M8? Sometimes stock and spec motors have been known to cause some serious glitching...ask Frank ? But I have never heard of curtain weave patterns causing glitching. Weird. Maybe we can make special low frequency super soft fiberglass chassis for you
This was a REAL problem and not caused by the equipment. EVERYTHING was changed, moved replaced. 2 of everything to try and solve the problem.

Talked to 2 Radio Manufacturers CS Dept's, and was confirmed that this has been a problem with some Cars in the past. (also contacted HPI)

Finally moved all of the Electronics to a Plastic Chassis Car and NO problems what so ever.

I have talked to dozens of Pro-2 owners over the last few years and most have had no problems, but others like me, ditched their Pro-2 for the very same reason.

I also add, that the exact same Radio and Equipment has been in my Pro-3 with NO Glitching ever.

So anyways, I'm not trying to Bash, but voicing a serious concern, that has kept me and others away from Woven Graphite Chassis Cars.
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