Hpi Pro 4
#166
Tech Initiate
They have been testing a shaft car for quite some time ago. I think the chief designer is an American and not Japanese.
Guys, how many ways to make a shaft car anyway? You can either put it left or right. But the car looks very wide though? Maybe that is just something wrong with my eyes.
Another thing that I want, dull graphite chassis instead of shiny one. Look at SD Black Edition.
Guys, how many ways to make a shaft car anyway? You can either put it left or right. But the car looks very wide though? Maybe that is just something wrong with my eyes.
Another thing that I want, dull graphite chassis instead of shiny one. Look at SD Black Edition.
#167
KR: Wouldn't be an ex-Tamiya designer going by the name of Miura by any chance, would it?
#168
Tech Champion
iTrader: (7)
DOTMAN: gotta agree with you. from the pics the chassis does look quite thin. i hope thats just an illusion though and that it is actually thicker (3-4mm at least). otherwise the car looks good. if it performs well and we get good feedback about it on this thread, i just might pick one up. for now im hapyy with my xxxs.
KR: dull graphite appeals to me as well. Much like the type Kai uses for their aftermarket stuff. thatwould be sweet!
KR: dull graphite appeals to me as well. Much like the type Kai uses for their aftermarket stuff. thatwould be sweet!
#169
Re: yes i have
Originally posted by watsrags
I have spoken to the local hobby shop they tell me that they can't get the spares forom the importet
The importer recommended that I get parts from LHS
WHAT A MERRY GO ROUND
SHAME SHAME SHAME HPI
I have spoken to the local hobby shop they tell me that they can't get the spares forom the importet
The importer recommended that I get parts from LHS
WHAT A MERRY GO ROUND
SHAME SHAME SHAME HPI
Status is that the former HPI fans around here have given up on HPI. Including myself.
Hmmm, seems to be time for a new avatar
#170
Tech Champion
iTrader: (9)
Originally posted by ROBORAT
DOTMAN: gotta agree with you. from the pics the chassis does look quite thin. i hope thats just an illusion though and that it is actually thicker (3-4mm at least). otherwise the car looks good. if it performs well and we get good feedback about it on this thread, i just might pick one up. for now im hapyy with my xxxs.
DOTMAN: gotta agree with you. from the pics the chassis does look quite thin. i hope thats just an illusion though and that it is actually thicker (3-4mm at least). otherwise the car looks good. if it performs well and we get good feedback about it on this thread, i just might pick one up. for now im hapyy with my xxxs.
I'm sure HPI or HB will offer a thicker chassis as an option.
KR... veecee is correct....ex-Tamiya desinger Miura help develope the Pro4.
#171
Originally posted by Speed Demon
Yupp..... I think it's up to the website guys to update their pages.. HPI USA is a bit slow on updating their pages.. look at their official HPI forum.... what do you see???
This is not an offence just oppinion...
Yupp..... I think it's up to the website guys to update their pages.. HPI USA is a bit slow on updating their pages.. look at their official HPI forum.... what do you see???
This is not an offence just oppinion...
#172
Tech Champion
iTrader: (62)
rc-zombies - Do you really think if they had a stiffer chassis the car would be undrivable outdoors??? Wouldn't a stiffer chassis just make the suspension work more instead of the chassis??? I understand that a lot of sedan racing is done outdoor on asphalt, which might suggest why HPI has gone with a chassis thickness of 2.5 or so. On the other hand having a chassis this thin will not work for carpet racing (high grip situations) and thus will turn people like myself off from getting one.
Question, why would HPI not develop a car with a chassis stiff enough for indoor carpet as well as outdoor asphalt??? Example....TC3.
Question, why would HPI not develop a car with a chassis stiff enough for indoor carpet as well as outdoor asphalt??? Example....TC3.
#173
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
Every Japanese car/driver wants to make the chassis flex in lower traction conditions. The 2 American companies believe in a stiff chassis and letting the suspension work. It's just a design philosophy. Personally i like the high stiffness chassis better, but I mostly race carpet.
#174
Wow HPI sure looks like they are getting more serious about racing. Unlike their old adage "they are just fun cars". The car does look like it may be a little weak however.
The R40 has done quite well so far, but I want to see it in the hands of the punters not somebody like Hara.
The R40 has done quite well so far, but I want to see it in the hands of the punters not somebody like Hara.
#175
Tech Elite
Chassis stiffness
Originally posted by robk
Every Japanese car/driver wants to make the chassis flex in lower traction conditions. The 2 American companies believe in a stiff chassis and letting the suspension work. It's just a design philosophy. Personally i like the high stiffness chassis better, but I mostly race carpet.
Every Japanese car/driver wants to make the chassis flex in lower traction conditions. The 2 American companies believe in a stiff chassis and letting the suspension work. It's just a design philosophy. Personally i like the high stiffness chassis better, but I mostly race carpet.
My vote goes for a Stiff Chassis assembly and let the suspension do the work.
#176
Tech Initiate
It really depends on which materials that they are going to plan to use.
Recently, I try to twist a 2.5mm thick chassis plate of OVA T4 NEO. It feels a lot stiffer than most of the 3mm chassis cars like SD and EVO 3.
Recently, I try to twist a 2.5mm thick chassis plate of OVA T4 NEO. It feels a lot stiffer than most of the 3mm chassis cars like SD and EVO 3.
#177
I wouldn't worry about the chassis stiffness of the car guys. The thing is as solid as anything out there and even now it's still in prototype stage; as the web page says "specifications are subject to change". Even the pictures of the "real" car you see are not the final product. Honestly, if most club-level drivers did a blind back-to-back test of a 2mm, 2.5mm or 3mm chassis, probably 95% of drivers wouldn't be able to tell the difference on the track. So let Hara and Thad take care of the testing and we'll let you know what they come back with.
#178
Ok, this is from the HPI website:
The RS4 Pro 4 is an all-new designed professional 1/10th electric racing Touring Car from HPI. With over 2 years research and development under it's belt, every area on the car has been extensively tested and race proven before it's launch.
The Pro 4 was designed with an all-new shaft drive drivetrain, optimised suspension set up, twin deck C/F chassis and perfected ackerman steering geometry for all types of track layout's and racing conditions. The most noticeable change is to the drive-train which utilises a highly efficient shaft-drive 4wd transmission. Back-to-back track testing revealed the benefits of low maintenance & fast acceleration that a shaft drive transmission offers. The RS4 Pro 4 will be a self-assembly kit form with key items like the radio, ESC, body and tyres left to the choice of the driver. The Pro 4 uses the highest quality materials & will have an amazing specification to make it a force at the highest level of competition.
Purple Anodised Aluminium Motor Mount & Lightweight Driveshaft
Our HPI Team Drivers will be racing the Pro 4 at all major touring car races as soon as the car is available - ensuring trackside factory support, Team Set-up's and the essential, continued development of the platform to keep the Pro 4 at the top of the winning circle.
Lowest Centre of Gravity in Class
Main Features:
Woven Graphite Main Chassis
Woven Graphite Upper Deck
Woven Graphite Shock Towers
Woven Graphite Steering Plate
Purple Titanium Turnbuckles
MIP CVD's
Carbon Plastic: Arms, Uprights, Hub Carriers, Steering Blocks, and Gearboxes
Carbide Ball Differential
Front One-way
Aluminum Threaded Shocks with Bladders
Aluminum Main Drive Shaft
Aluminum Motor Mount
Aluminum Spur Gear Adapter
Aluminum Hex Clamp Hubs w/ adjustable Track (Width)
Efficient 64 Pitch Spur and Pinion Gears
Socket (Hex) Screws and Fasteners used throughout chassis
Pre-cut Urethane Foam Bumper
Drive Ratio: 2.4375
High Quality Ball Bearings used throughout (24)
Overall Lightweight Chassis for Best Performance
General Features:
Top to bottom mounting of gearbox for precise alignment and mesh of gears
Carbon Plastics used to increase rigidity and reduce component weight for better chassis response and tuning
Adjustable, variable Ackerman steering geometry to increase steering feel and increase corner speed
Completely ball raced steering assembly for smooth steering with reduced play
Crank integrated servo saver with adjustable tension
Included ride height and droop gauge for accurate suspension adjustment.
Pivot Ball Block adjustments to maintain suspension precision and to reduce mis-alignment of the suspension pins.
3mm inboard suspension shafts for strength and 2.5mm outboard shafts for reduced weight and improved wheel clearance
Set screws used to retain outboard suspension shafts for easier maintenance
Overall lightweight chassis for best performance and adjustable ballast positioning with optional ballast weights.
Low center of gravity and centralized weight for improved cornering power and overall responsiveness.
Reduced unsprung weight for increased response and improved control.
Ultra Stiff Carbon Fibre Chassis Components
Precision Mounted Gearbox Moulding
Carbon Shock Towers & Threaded Aluminium Shocks
Rear Inboard Suspension Mounts & Anti-roll Bar
Purple Anodised Aluminium Motor Mount & Lightweight Driveshaft
Copyright HPI
The RS4 Pro 4 is an all-new designed professional 1/10th electric racing Touring Car from HPI. With over 2 years research and development under it's belt, every area on the car has been extensively tested and race proven before it's launch.
The Pro 4 was designed with an all-new shaft drive drivetrain, optimised suspension set up, twin deck C/F chassis and perfected ackerman steering geometry for all types of track layout's and racing conditions. The most noticeable change is to the drive-train which utilises a highly efficient shaft-drive 4wd transmission. Back-to-back track testing revealed the benefits of low maintenance & fast acceleration that a shaft drive transmission offers. The RS4 Pro 4 will be a self-assembly kit form with key items like the radio, ESC, body and tyres left to the choice of the driver. The Pro 4 uses the highest quality materials & will have an amazing specification to make it a force at the highest level of competition.
Purple Anodised Aluminium Motor Mount & Lightweight Driveshaft
Our HPI Team Drivers will be racing the Pro 4 at all major touring car races as soon as the car is available - ensuring trackside factory support, Team Set-up's and the essential, continued development of the platform to keep the Pro 4 at the top of the winning circle.
Lowest Centre of Gravity in Class
Main Features:
Woven Graphite Main Chassis
Woven Graphite Upper Deck
Woven Graphite Shock Towers
Woven Graphite Steering Plate
Purple Titanium Turnbuckles
MIP CVD's
Carbon Plastic: Arms, Uprights, Hub Carriers, Steering Blocks, and Gearboxes
Carbide Ball Differential
Front One-way
Aluminum Threaded Shocks with Bladders
Aluminum Main Drive Shaft
Aluminum Motor Mount
Aluminum Spur Gear Adapter
Aluminum Hex Clamp Hubs w/ adjustable Track (Width)
Efficient 64 Pitch Spur and Pinion Gears
Socket (Hex) Screws and Fasteners used throughout chassis
Pre-cut Urethane Foam Bumper
Drive Ratio: 2.4375
High Quality Ball Bearings used throughout (24)
Overall Lightweight Chassis for Best Performance
General Features:
Top to bottom mounting of gearbox for precise alignment and mesh of gears
Carbon Plastics used to increase rigidity and reduce component weight for better chassis response and tuning
Adjustable, variable Ackerman steering geometry to increase steering feel and increase corner speed
Completely ball raced steering assembly for smooth steering with reduced play
Crank integrated servo saver with adjustable tension
Included ride height and droop gauge for accurate suspension adjustment.
Pivot Ball Block adjustments to maintain suspension precision and to reduce mis-alignment of the suspension pins.
3mm inboard suspension shafts for strength and 2.5mm outboard shafts for reduced weight and improved wheel clearance
Set screws used to retain outboard suspension shafts for easier maintenance
Overall lightweight chassis for best performance and adjustable ballast positioning with optional ballast weights.
Low center of gravity and centralized weight for improved cornering power and overall responsiveness.
Reduced unsprung weight for increased response and improved control.
Ultra Stiff Carbon Fibre Chassis Components
Precision Mounted Gearbox Moulding
Carbon Shock Towers & Threaded Aluminium Shocks
Rear Inboard Suspension Mounts & Anti-roll Bar
Purple Anodised Aluminium Motor Mount & Lightweight Driveshaft
Copyright HPI
#179
What's the estimated price??