SMC Lipos 7.4 5000mah
09-24-2007, 07:08 AM
#316
You missed the point... might need to re-read my post without an agenda. (hint: someone was trying to make the leap that since SMC claims higher performance... therefore it MUST also mean that it's more dangerous. I was simply calling him on that false argument. COME ON... you can't say stuff like that without a valid reason.) But go ahead and start insulting me. WOW.
Yeah, lets' all assume that it's very likely that these WILL burn down your house... since they don't have data to prove it won't happen.
I have bought several brands of lipos and NO...I did NOT first demand to see safety data. I also grew up riding my bike without a tard helmet. Amazing I am still alive and never had to ride the short bus. (although possibly retarded after all)
Also, I never said it's not reasonable to ask a company for info concerning their product either.
Why don't you guys add up all the lipo sellers who have the kind of safety data you want to see from SMC. How many others have it??
Yeah, lets' all assume that it's very likely that these WILL burn down your house... since they don't have data to prove it won't happen.
I have bought several brands of lipos and NO...I did NOT first demand to see safety data. I also grew up riding my bike without a tard helmet. Amazing I am still alive and never had to ride the short bus. (although possibly retarded after all)
Also, I never said it's not reasonable to ask a company for info concerning their product either.
Why don't you guys add up all the lipo sellers who have the kind of safety data you want to see from SMC. How many others have it??
Based on your posts maybe you should have worn the helmet
sorry couldnt resist. You set it up too well...
09-24-2007, 07:40 AM
#317
You missed the point... might need to re-read my post without an agenda. (hint: someone was trying to make the leap that since SMC claims higher performance... therefore it MUST also mean that it's more dangerous. I was simply calling him on that false argument. COME ON... you can't say stuff like that without a valid reason.) But go ahead and start insulting me. WOW.
Yeah, lets' all assume that it's very likely that these WILL burn down your house... since they don't have data to prove it won't happen.
I have bought several brands of lipos and NO...I did NOT first demand to see safety data. I also grew up riding my bike without a tard helmet. Amazing I am still alive and never had to ride the short bus. (although possibly retarded after all)
Also, I never said it's not reasonable to ask a company for info concerning their product either.
Why don't you guys add up all the lipo sellers who have the kind of safety data you want to see from SMC. How many others have it??
Yeah, lets' all assume that it's very likely that these WILL burn down your house... since they don't have data to prove it won't happen.
I have bought several brands of lipos and NO...I did NOT first demand to see safety data. I also grew up riding my bike without a tard helmet. Amazing I am still alive and never had to ride the short bus. (although possibly retarded after all)
Also, I never said it's not reasonable to ask a company for info concerning their product either.
Why don't you guys add up all the lipo sellers who have the kind of safety data you want to see from SMC. How many others have it??
I'm not really impressed that you buy packs with zero research beforehand. Do have the same method for the radios/servos/cars/tires/etc?
09-24-2007, 08:04 AM
#318
Tech Apprentice
The Enerland cells Flightpower uses may have more voltage under load, but the cycle life graphs are pretty bad. It's not apparent how important that voltage under load is for 13.5 or 10.5 racing. Maybe it would mean a lot more in mod?
Don't get me wrong, I'd happily use Enerland cells, but what they gain in voltage they lose in cycle life. I need to find the charts, but I think they started dropping off after something like 20 cycles.
Don't get me wrong, I'd happily use Enerland cells, but what they gain in voltage they lose in cycle life. I need to find the charts, but I think they started dropping off after something like 20 cycles.
09-24-2007, 08:29 AM
#319
Jack, battery matchers live and die by their (nimh) label numbers, will we see any kind of numbers on lipos ?
09-24-2007, 09:59 AM
#320
Tech Master
iTrader: (19)
WOW! You guys REALLY think your battery packs are supposed to last forever???? LMAO!!!!! The first thing the performance geeks will do is push the limits of any new technology. With Brushless it has been gearing....with LIPO it will be????? Charging above the recommended rate????? LOL Sacrificing cycle life for more performance????? LOL
The fact is that anyone that comes out with a battery that is .02 faster per lap will sell tons of them. You can not deny this FACT! So when sales of an Performance Pack far outstrip those of a safe but slow pack.....what then????? Guess what won't be on the market for long....need proof???? How many of you still run 3300s competitively??? LOL
LMAO!!!! I find this entire debate funny...too many armchair engineers in the mix....(not you Ling "FAILURE" Tong...I will take care of YOU on raceday!!!! LMAO!!!!)
The fact is that anyone that comes out with a battery that is .02 faster per lap will sell tons of them. You can not deny this FACT! So when sales of an Performance Pack far outstrip those of a safe but slow pack.....what then????? Guess what won't be on the market for long....need proof???? How many of you still run 3300s competitively??? LOL
LMAO!!!! I find this entire debate funny...too many armchair engineers in the mix....(not you Ling "FAILURE" Tong...I will take care of YOU on raceday!!!! LMAO!!!!)
09-24-2007, 10:10 AM
#321
WOW! You guys REALLY think your battery packs are supposed to last forever???? LMAO!!!!! The first thing the performance geeks will do is push the limits of any new technology. With Brushless it has been gearing....with LIPO it will be????? Charging above the recommended rate????? LOL Sacrificing cycle life for more performance????? LOL
The fact is that anyone that comes out with a battery that is .02 faster per lap will sell tons of them. You can not deny this FACT! So when sales of an Performance Pack far outstrip those of a safe but slow pack.....what then????? Guess what won't be on the market for long....need proof???? How many of you still run 3300s competitively??? LOL
LMAO!!!! I find this entire debate funny...too many armchair engineers in the mix....(not you Ling "FAILURE" Tong...I will take care of YOU on raceday!!!! LMAO!!!!)
The fact is that anyone that comes out with a battery that is .02 faster per lap will sell tons of them. You can not deny this FACT! So when sales of an Performance Pack far outstrip those of a safe but slow pack.....what then????? Guess what won't be on the market for long....need proof???? How many of you still run 3300s competitively??? LOL
LMAO!!!! I find this entire debate funny...too many armchair engineers in the mix....(not you Ling "FAILURE" Tong...I will take care of YOU on raceday!!!! LMAO!!!!)
09-24-2007, 11:05 AM
#328
shows that I knew I was setting myself up... and expected somebody to make good on it.I don't really need to reread the thread because I was simply calling a spade a spade. Sorry I missed what safety data example you listed. So how many? There are dozens of lipo "companies" selling product. What percentage do you say have what you want?
It's actually not a false argument to state that one way to get additional voltage performance out of a lipo is to use a more volatile chemistry. Notice I didn't say SMC was using it, just giving an additional reason to want to know more detail. And actually, I can say stuff like that.
I'm not really impressed that you buy packs with zero research beforehand. Do have the same method for the radios/servos/cars/tires/etc?
I'm not really impressed that you buy packs with zero research beforehand. Do have the same method for the radios/servos/cars/tires/etc?
If you were not aiming your statements at SMC then why did you post them here? Sure looks like you are suggesting that they must be volatile... (since you referred to SMC claims that it performs great) what else could you mean?
You guys are entertaining.
09-24-2007, 11:12 AM
#330
If it still sound like I'm accusing SMC of using more volatile cells to you let's just call it a day and agree we don't see things the same way.