4LikesTamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
02-21-2008, 12:44 AM
#1428
I was wondering for all of you who had/have TRF415 MSX MRE and now have the 416 if there is a big difference in performance with the 416 vs the TRF415?
I bought a TA05 to race at a TCS race this past month and got hooked on r/c again after 4+ years... So I bought a used 415MSX and am waiting for it to get here still... I found out to run lipo's in the 415 I would need to dremel the bulkhead or get the MSXX stick pack conversion kit(about $120)... I don't like to hack parts so the kit would be what I do. That now pushes my used 415 over the $300-$350 range. So now I am 2nd guessing my purchase of the 415 and wondering if I should just spend the extra money and get a 416.
First off I would like to say that I am not the best driver out there since I just got back into the hobby (I am a bit rusty.) I am more of a middle of the pack person so far. I don't have the constancy yet in lap times, but can turn some very good laps. So I am not sure if the differences between the 2 would even be noticeable for me or not.
What do you guys think. Keep the 415 or just say screw it and spurge and get the 416...
I bought a TA05 to race at a TCS race this past month and got hooked on r/c again after 4+ years... So I bought a used 415MSX and am waiting for it to get here still... I found out to run lipo's in the 415 I would need to dremel the bulkhead or get the MSXX stick pack conversion kit(about $120)... I don't like to hack parts so the kit would be what I do. That now pushes my used 415 over the $300-$350 range. So now I am 2nd guessing my purchase of the 415 and wondering if I should just spend the extra money and get a 416.
First off I would like to say that I am not the best driver out there since I just got back into the hobby (I am a bit rusty.) I am more of a middle of the pack person so far. I don't have the constancy yet in lap times, but can turn some very good laps. So I am not sure if the differences between the 2 would even be noticeable for me or not.
What do you guys think. Keep the 415 or just say screw it and spurge and get the 416...
02-21-2008, 01:46 AM
#1429
Tech Master
I'm sure a new edition will be up for this coming IFMAR worlds. 
02-21-2008, 03:00 AM
#1430
You can place a 3200 carbon in the 415MRE. But it's not TCS legal since GT1 does not allow lipo's. Also, I believe Travis has the Orion 4800 packs. So that is his main concern. Otherwise, I would suggest him to sell the Orion packs and buy the SMC 4000 packs since they are only 20mm tall. The lowest "hump" or "dip" in the rear bulk head is right at 20mm clearance. So a slight dremel for added clearance to the SMC pack would be nice. Or dremel even more and buy the EzLipo plate to fit under the pack to help balance out the chassis.
02-21-2008, 04:40 AM
#1432
Really??? Damn... they keep changing the rules!! haha... What next? Eliminate 13.5 and move to 17.5 for GT2? I also see they added a min weight for GT1 as well too. I'll be racing GT2 this year anyways.
02-21-2008, 10:33 AM
#1435
some parts arrival
02-21-2008, 03:15 PM
#1436
In my experience, I had to do some work on the 32's to fit in my 415 MRE, as I wasn't happy with how they fitted in the car.
To make removing the cells easier, I dremelled a small amount of material from the casing on the 32. This mainly to clear the bulkhead hump.
I also removed material from the rear edge of the case, as I also found it was touching the bukhead there... imo, the cells touching a bukhead is bad, purely from a flex point of view.
You can see the mods here http://www.rctech.net/forum/showpost...8&postcount=38
Never tried the 36's, so can't comment on that, although I would assume it's harder still, due to the larger top to the case.
They both fit in the 416 great though, only slight issue is clearance for the connector under the top deck.
HiH
Ed
To make removing the cells easier, I dremelled a small amount of material from the casing on the 32. This mainly to clear the bulkhead hump.
I also removed material from the rear edge of the case, as I also found it was touching the bukhead there... imo, the cells touching a bukhead is bad, purely from a flex point of view.
You can see the mods here http://www.rctech.net/forum/showpost...8&postcount=38
Never tried the 36's, so can't comment on that, although I would assume it's harder still, due to the larger top to the case.
They both fit in the 416 great though, only slight issue is clearance for the connector under the top deck.
HiH
Ed
Last edited by TryHard; 02-21-2008 at 03:39 PM.
02-23-2008, 03:11 PM
#1438
02-23-2008, 03:32 PM
#1439
Tech Regular
Sus mount blocks
The 416 manual states the part number for Sus Mount 1D as 3454536, Is this the same as TAM51068 1D ?
Also is TAM51064 1D Bridge required ?
This is to a have a D/D, zero degree front setup ..
Thanks
Also is TAM51064 1D Bridge required ?
This is to a have a D/D, zero degree front setup ..
Thanks
02-23-2008, 03:48 PM
#1440