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Old 10-09-2009, 12:17 PM   #6781
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I have to be blind......I still can't see the wider front top deck spacing, can someone explain what I'm looking for, totally missed the bus on this one.
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I have to be blind......I still can't see the wider front top deck spacing, can someone explain what I'm looking for, totally missed the bus on this one.
Nah, I'm with you. I've spent a few minutes looking at the pics a few times now, and I feel like I'm looking at my WE. I suppose it's quite a testament to the longevity of the original design. Hell, my WE has the chassis and top deck from the original kit anyway.
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I don't know about wider, maybe something got lost in the translation.
It does look like the front bulkhead to chassis mount is moved more rearward.

Not enough difference to justify dumping my current 416 for the new one.
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I don't know about wider, maybe something got lost in the translation.
It does look like the front bulkhead to chassis mount is moved more rearward.

Not enough difference to justify dumping my current 416 for the new one.
Agree, I just got my 416WE and even before I received it the 416X was announced. I just cannot see what all of the fuss is about. The 416WE is a great car and until I need a new car I will not be making the switch. I get really excited when new cars come out, but in this case I just don't see any radically improved pieces to justify the change. Maybe when they hit the streets and my buddy Syndrome pulls the trigger on one I can check it out, until then I am still getting to know my new ride and excited to be part of the Tamiya sickness!
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:22 PM   #6785
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Is there something going on with the ends of the bulkheads where the sway bars mount? It doesn't look flush like the existing kits.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #6786
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That picture is not very good, I think my eyes are going bad trying to find the little changes.

I went back several pages and I think Ed picked out the fact that the F/R suspension bridge is closer to the back part of the "foot" of the front bulkhead, took a long time to see it, and its harder to see without one in yer hand to compare it to. I just wonder if that means the for/aft wheelbase adjustment has been changed and the F/R bridge location has been moved forward, wonder if thats to try and help the weak point of the bent bridge and screws on hard impact, although it goes aginst the flow of most impacts. Just wild speculation on my part.

If I cant bolt the new motor mount to my car I think I'll just get the 1mm milled of the stock piece and run that way for a while.
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the "X" isnt sporting the new "split" suspension blocks.
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:31 PM   #6788
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That picture is not very good, I think my eyes are going bad trying to find the little changes.

I went back several pages and I think Ed picked out the fact that the F/R suspension bridge is closer to the back part of the "foot" of the front bulkhead, took a long time to see it, and its harder to see without one in yer hand to compare it to. I just wonder if that means the for/aft wheelbase adjustment has been changed and the F/R bridge location has been moved forward, wonder if thats to try and help the weak point of the bent bridge and screws on hard impact, although it goes aginst the flow of most impacts. Just wild speculation on my part.
"Wider front bulkhead attachment screw positions and a new lower deck shape enhance the chassis' front rigidity"

So it's a different front lower bulkhead with mounting points that are further apart. You can also see in the RC-Japan chassis pic that there are spare holes for the current front lower bulkheads.
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I agree the differences are very subtle. Not sure if someone of my ability can really tell the difference... So I might give it a miss as well.
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I agree the differences are very subtle. Not sure if someone of my ability can really tell the difference... So I might give it a miss as well.
Yes,I agree also.I wish at some point they would make the step to design the car with lipo in mind.Nihms are dead in my neck of the woods.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:24 PM   #6791
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...pics above are very similar to the 416WE.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:35 PM   #6792
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here are some pics of the 416X chassis kit and a list of the real differences you will find compared to the 416WE.

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Motor position has been shifted 1mm to center for optimum chassis balance.

Rear ball differential has been shifted 1.8mm towards the rear to improve rear traction and acceleration. Rear ball differential has been shifted towards the rear 1.8mm To improve rear traction and acceleration.

Wider front bulkhead attachment screw positions and a new lower deck shape enhance the chassis' front rigidity. Wider front BULKHEAD attachment screw positions and a new lower deck shape enhance the chassis' front rigidity.

Features new carbon 2.25mm lower and 2mm upper decks. New Features 2.25mm Carbon 2mm upper and lower decks.

Front pulley features a direct coupling while the center pulley also features a direct drive setup. Front pulley features a direct coupling pulley while the center also features a direct drive setup.

Newly designed parts such as lower and upper decks, rear drive belt, front and rear lower bulkhead, motor mount, center bulkhead, and motor mount support included. Newly designed parts such as lower and upper decks, rear drive belt, front and rear lower BULKHEAD, motor mount, BULKHEAD center, and motor mount support included.

Requires body, R/C unit, battery, motor, pinion gear, tires, and wheels (sold separately).


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man im a serious whore when it comes down to the 416 but hanging on to my 416we seems like the logical choice right now even with the subtle improvements done to the 416x. now that lipo is legal for ifmar that means to me that further chassis design changes are inevitable mr. anderson(haha) exotek seems to be on par with that by the lipo chassis' they make for the tc5 and cyclone so i think to wait longer would be wise.
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:37 PM   #6794
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perfect "c" you got that spx yet sucker
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:41 PM   #6795
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im gonna put that spx right up ur cars ass
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