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Old 08-17-2009, 04:26 PM   #6301
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Guys, what effect would running 1B (FF)/ 1C (FR) have on the car?
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:08 PM   #6302
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Yea that is the reason I got the 416we you have so much fine tune options, now all I want to know is the difference between the suspension blocks so I can setup the car the way I want.
Thard's site (the link I gave previously) gives a pretty good explanation of the differences between the blocks. Basically there is a 0.5 degree difference between each block. So the narrowest is XD and XC is wider by 0.5 degree (then XB is 0.5 deg wider again, then XA, X, A, B, C, D, E and F).

If you want to know what each setting change does to the car's handling, check this: http://www.thard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=32
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:13 PM   #6303
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Man I think my car would be a bit twitchy with 2 degrees.
Yeh you'd think so but it's not. In fact I'm tempted to try 1.5 deg...
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:49 PM   #6304
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Thard's site (the link I gave previously) gives a pretty good explanation of the differences between the blocks. Basically there is a 0.5 degree difference between each block. So the narrowest is XD and XC is wider by 0.5 degree (then XB is 0.5 deg wider again, then XA, X, A, B, C, D, E and F).

If you want to know what each setting change does to the car's handling, check this: http://www.thard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=32
Yea I did go to the site great infomation I will get it soon, thank you for all your help. I tried to open that link but it won't let me open the link.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:04 PM   #6305
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Never mind, but my anti-dive wasn't what I thought it was.

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Any of you TRF gurus know where I can get a TRF511? The offroad guys aren't as used to tamiya as us - in true form, almost everywhere is sold out. I know there were some secret squirrel places we used to source 416's from but I cant remember any of them, have tried Champ (AWOL at the moment), rcmart/model/market. Tower has them but at US$100 more than the HK stores, which is already $130 more than a B44

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Old 08-17-2009, 11:29 PM   #6307
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Give champ another try. Monday is their day off so they are prob catching up on emails.
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:34 AM   #6308
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Yep Try champ again

Mr Suganuma was on Holiday, and I guess Masa got ill, either way I just recieved a reply email from them on a question I sent over a week ago.
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can some one explain front arm sweep for me

i am at a tight track again next weekend and i want to try it

do i need 1C FF / 1B FR

or 1B FF ? 1C FR ???

and how far can i go ?? is it ok to go 1a 1c or 1c 1a ???
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can some one explain front arm sweep for me

i am at a tight track again next weekend and i want to try it

do i need 1C FF / 1B FR

or 1B FF ? 1C FR ???

and how far can i go ?? is it ok to go 1a 1c or 1c 1a ???
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can some one explain front arm sweep for me

i am at a tight track again next weekend and i want to try it

do i need 1C FF / 1B FR

or 1B FF ? 1C FR ???

and how far can i go ?? is it ok to go 1a 1c or 1c 1a ???
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the most you would want for arm sweep is .5 mm, or one step between block letters. Any more than that and you will end up with bind issues and weird angels on other parts of the suspension and driveline. I think you are wanting the arms to sweep back, which is the norm, so you would want the wider bridge in the FF and the narrower one in the FR.
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the most you would want for arm sweep is .5 mm, or one step between block letters. Any more than that and you will end up with bind issues and weird angels on other parts of the suspension and driveline. I think you are wanting the arms to sweep back, which is the norm, so you would want the wider bridge in the FF and the narrower one in the FR.
Thats what she said.
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Whats next for the 416.

I see the split blocks are being used by a few over here in Australia now (with no real effect other than bling ).

What do you all think is next?

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Does anyone know if Tamiya makes Titanium axles for the 416?
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I see the split blocks are being used by a few over here in Australia now (with no real effect other than bling ).
They will be stronger in a crash and also offer two settings for the price of one regular block.
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