Tamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
#5701
This gives more grip by lowering the rear RC. It also gives a very nice amount of camber change for most tracks
If you're loosing to an 009 in low grip then your setup does need some work It's pretty easy to see why you've got a bit of push though, so it's an easy fix. Your front rc is a bit high, and your rear rc is a bit low, the longer wheelbase is stopping rotation, and the no rear sway bar wont be helping in the fast bends
Here is my setup again, copy the roll centres and wheelbase and see how you go. I run this wheelbase everywhere and always have, it just seems spot on. Also, when you say you're running softer springs, what are they? and what is the ambient temp when you race
If you're loosing to an 009 in low grip then your setup does need some work It's pretty easy to see why you've got a bit of push though, so it's an easy fix. Your front rc is a bit high, and your rear rc is a bit low, the longer wheelbase is stopping rotation, and the no rear sway bar wont be helping in the fast bends
Here is my setup again, copy the roll centres and wheelbase and see how you go. I run this wheelbase everywhere and always have, it just seems spot on. Also, when you say you're running softer springs, what are they? and what is the ambient temp when you race
cheers for the set up sheet i'll try it out
i use tamiya blue front and yellow rear , our track is low/medium grip and temp is again medium temps for europe
i also use Sorex32 tyres and somtimes if i'm feeling rich i use Vvec30s
#5702
#5703
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No worries, the geometry of that setup (same as the base asphalt) is spot on in most circumstances. If you have the HPI springs, use them. If not, try tamiya white/blue and blue/yellow back to back... I reckon the harder will be faster. I've also found sorex 36s to be faster than 32s in all conditions. They are more responsive, even when its cold.
#5704
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Does anybody know where I can find either the standard 416 (2.25mm) or we (also 2.25) lower decks in stock? Somewhere in the US or Asia preferably.
There are plenty of the optional 2.5mm chassis floating around out there, but i've got 2 seasons on the standard one and don't feel like changing such a big variable...
There are plenty of the optional 2.5mm chassis floating around out there, but i've got 2 seasons on the standard one and don't feel like changing such a big variable...
#5705
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#5706
Sticky try rc champ, I order my 416WC chassie from them on wendsday
and got it today in the mail... they are good and very fast to get stuff from
u have to e-mail them what u want with part # and they well e-mail u back
with pricing I get stuff from them all the time,
and got it today in the mail... they are good and very fast to get stuff from
u have to e-mail them what u want with part # and they well e-mail u back
with pricing I get stuff from them all the time,
#5708
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I gave my 416 a good send off yesterday by winning the 10.5 class at the latest round of our interclub challenge here in NSW. The track was tight and technical, med grip, and corners marked with large metal domes that really punished you if you touched them. I had issues with them in qualifying but by the 3rd amain it all came good and I won overall on a countback
I also got to try the new Keyence 10.5 for the day (the TOP importer also brings them in). I didn't get a chance to play with the gearing, but although it was running cold it was still super fast down the straight and with good punch and brakes. Cant wait to do some more testing with it
Anyway here is possibly my last 416 setup. It's very similar to my last setup but with the speed 6 body and changes to the rear suspension and toe to suit the lower grip, lower speed, more technical layout
I also got to try the new Keyence 10.5 for the day (the TOP importer also brings them in). I didn't get a chance to play with the gearing, but although it was running cold it was still super fast down the straight and with good punch and brakes. Cant wait to do some more testing with it
Anyway here is possibly my last 416 setup. It's very similar to my last setup but with the speed 6 body and changes to the rear suspension and toe to suit the lower grip, lower speed, more technical layout
Last edited by CraigM; 06-15-2009 at 08:16 PM. Reason: typo on setup sheet
#5709
I gave my 416 a good send off yesterday by winning the 10.5 class at the latest round of our interclub challenge here in NSW. The track was tight and technical, med grip, and corners marked with large metal domes that really punished you if you touched them. I had issues with them in qualifying but by the 3rd amain it all came good and I won overall on a countback
I also got to try the new Keyence 10.5 for the day (the TOP importer also brings them in). I didn't get a chance to play with the gearing, but although it was running cold it was still super fast down the straight and with good punch and brakes. Cant wait to do some more testing with it
Anyway here is possibly my last 416 setup. It's very similar to my last setup but with the speed 6 body and changes to the rear suspension and toe to suit the lower grip, lower speed, more technical layout
I also got to try the new Keyence 10.5 for the day (the TOP importer also brings them in). I didn't get a chance to play with the gearing, but although it was running cold it was still super fast down the straight and with good punch and brakes. Cant wait to do some more testing with it
Anyway here is possibly my last 416 setup. It's very similar to my last setup but with the speed 6 body and changes to the rear suspension and toe to suit the lower grip, lower speed, more technical layout
Hope that works for you ...
#5712
Craig, well done buddy. 2 big wins in the last month is nothing to sneeze at. Your input in this thread will be missed.
#5714
well done
Obviously was faster where it counts (the podium)
Mark M
#5715
TRF416WE maybe this week back in stock !