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Old 02-24-2009, 04:32 PM   #4531
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You'll need to detweak it on a tweak station prior to doing that or your readings will be off side to side. I use the Hudy simple chassis balancing tool

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Jonest: I doubt it would be the weight causing your issue. Check the droop like John said, and make sure you haven't lost a pin from one of your uni's and your belts are intact

C/C will give a more direct steering feel compared with D/D. It's personal preference really, but I prefer C/C in most situations
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Looking at going lipo in my 416.

Whats lipo's are people using and did you have to modify your to desk to fit them or the conections?

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Thanks guys, I'll check the droop and try the C/C combination this coming weekend race.

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Looking at going lipo in my 416.

Whats lipo's are people using and did you have to modify your to desk to fit them or the conections?

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For the orion pack I had to radius the upper deck a little so I could plug in the + wire. But the Thunder Power 5000mah 40c... didnt have to change a thing .. and it ROCKS!
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Some thoughts...

Switching away from the Tamiya servo saver (to the Kimbrough) solved all the wandering issues I've been having. It doesn't feel as direct as a new Tamiya (without slop), but they don't seem to last long. Why isn't there a truly great servo saver out there?

I find the one-piece top deck feels better (carpet/rubber/13.5). The car is less twitchy, and seems more predictable overall. I've gone back and forth between them a lot, and keep ending back with the new version.

The car has always seemed a little prone to over-rotating. I went back to the Mazda6 (instead of the Speed6 and R9-R) and things feel a lot better. It's not as aggressive, but so much more predictable, and pleasant to drive.
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Switching away from the Tamiya servo saver (to the Kimbrough) solved all the wandering issues I've been having. It doesn't feel as direct as a new Tamiya (without slop), but they don't seem to last long. Why isn't there a truly great servo saver out there?

I find the one-piece top deck feels better (carpet/rubber/13.5). The car is less twitchy, and seems more predictable overall. I've gone back and forth between them a lot, and keep ending back with the new version.

The car has always seemed a little prone to over-rotating. I went back to the Mazda6 (instead of the Speed6 and R9-R) and things feel a lot better. It's not as aggressive, but so much more predictable, and pleasant to drive.
Try one of those aluminum servo horns for the tamiya servo saver . If theres any play , jam a small piece of thin cardboard where the springs meet the two halves . But the alu. arm should do nicely.
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Some thoughts...

Switching away from the Tamiya servo saver (to the Kimbrough) solved all the wandering issues I've been having. It doesn't feel as direct as a new Tamiya (without slop), but they don't seem to last long. Why isn't there a truly great servo saver out there?

I find the one-piece top deck feels better (carpet/rubber/13.5). The car is less twitchy, and seems more predictable overall. I've gone back and forth between them a lot, and keep ending back with the new version.

The car has always seemed a little prone to over-rotating. I went back to the Mazda6 (instead of the Speed6 and R9-R) and things feel a lot better. It's not as aggressive, but so much more predictable, and pleasant to drive.
What rear wheelbase are you running? On low grip asphalt I have found a big difference between 2.5/2 and 3/1.5 in rotation.
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Some thoughts...

Switching away from the Tamiya servo saver (to the Kimbrough) solved all the wandering issues I've been having. It doesn't feel as direct as a new Tamiya (without slop), but they don't seem to last long. Why isn't there a truly great servo saver out there?

I find the one-piece top deck feels better (carpet/rubber/13.5). The car is less twitchy, and seems more predictable overall. I've gone back and forth between them a lot, and keep ending back with the new version.

The car has always seemed a little prone to over-rotating. I went back to the Mazda6 (instead of the Speed6 and R9-R) and things feel a lot better. It's not as aggressive, but so much more predictable, and pleasant to drive.
i recently had really bad wander on my car... then i switched from the tamiya white.. to the tamiya black with the aluminum middle piece and the wandering issues went away.

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i recently had really bad wander on my car... then i switched from the tamiya white.. to the tamiya black with the aluminum middle piece and the wandering issues went away.

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I was using the black with the alloy insert and it was still an issue. The kimbrough solved it
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I was using the black with the alloy insert and it was still an issue. The kimbrough solved it
awww crap. i hope mine doesnt go bad.
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Kimbrough=poopoo! haha Like I said, turn the car on, grab the wheel/tire, and you can turn it by hand. They just give in too easy=lose of steering.
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What rear wheelbase are you running? On low grip asphalt I have found a big difference between 2.5/2 and 3/1.5 in rotation.
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Sorry I'm not talking toe I mean spacers in front/behind the arms

Jimmy, I got the extra stiff kimbrough but have yet to do that test. If it's that weak I'm just gonna stick an alloy horn on the servo and carry a spare
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Sorry I'm not talking toe I mean spacers in front/behind the arms

Jimmy, I got the extra stiff kimbrough but have yet to do that test. If it's that weak I'm just gonna stick an alloy horn on the servo and carry a spare
Ah, silly me. It's whatever I grabbed off of Corey's setup. I haven't messed with wheelbase much at all, I generally just try and tune around it. :-) Perhaps that's my problem right there...

There's an extra stiff Kimbrough? Hmm, I'll investigate. Mine does seem a little soft.
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