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Old 01-25-2009, 03:07 PM   #4171
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Is there a reason you are using TRF415MSXX-style steering linkages?

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My wiring is such hack, cannot come close to Randy or the like... But I bet my diff covers are unique.. And is it sacrilege to have spring steel turnbuckles ?
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you didn't get short changed, they sell the back piece separately for about the same as the front piece. $50 servo saver anyone? Personally I bought the front bit because I see the pros using it, but didn't notice any difference
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Is there a reason you are using TRF415MSXX-style steering linkages?
You mean the Titanium ones over the alloy ones....

As for the servo saver... if you compare the alloy one with a new kit one... you probably won;t see much difference, however give it a few runs, and the plastic one wears badly, and becomes quite sloppy. With the Alloy front plate, this doesn't happen, stays nice and tight

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You mean the Titanium ones over the alloy ones....

As for the servo saver... if you compare the alloy one with a new kit one... you probably won;t see much difference, however give it a few runs, and the plastic one wears badly, and becomes quite sloppy. With the Alloy front plate, this doesn't happen, stays nice and tight

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Old 01-25-2009, 09:12 PM   #4175
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No that is not what I meant, I was referring to the steering arms. The ones in the picture appear to be off the TRF415MSXX, they are not the TRF416 ones. I circled what I meant.

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You mean the Titanium ones over the alloy ones....

As for the servo saver... if you compare the alloy one with a new kit one... you probably won;t see much difference, however give it a few runs, and the plastic one wears badly, and becomes quite sloppy. With the Alloy front plate, this doesn't happen, stays nice and tight

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Old 01-26-2009, 05:11 AM   #4176
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Hard to tell from that angle. But it looks right to me. I refer to that as the steering rack, or bell crank. Pretty sure the 415 and 416 have different ones, but then again, anythings possible.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:15 AM   #4177
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Pretty sure the 415 and 416 have different ones, but then again, anythings possible.
Of course they do, hence my question!
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:37 AM   #4178
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I bought the car used so, I cannot answer that, I thought those were the right ones, but then again, with this car I keep on finding surprises every time I work on it.

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No that is not what I meant, I was referring to the steering arms. The ones in the picture appear to be off the TRF415MSXX, they are not the TRF416 ones. I circled what I meant.
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Is there a reason you are using TRF415MSXX-style steering linkages?
Well, he writes "spring steel", can't tell from the picture, but if it is "spring steel" then we are normally talking Hudy/XRAY....
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Well, he writes "spring steel", can't tell from the picture, but if it is "spring steel" then we are normally talking Hudy/XRAY....
If you read the rest of the tread you can see he doesn't mean this and that there's already an answer
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No that is not what I meant, I was referring to the steering arms. The ones in the picture appear to be off the TRF415MSXX, they are not the TRF416 ones. I circled what I meant.
ahh you were looking at Tim's car... I was looking at sohlman's...

But your right, they are the 415 MSXX bell cranks... although you do have the 416 cross brace. Have a look at the two attached pics.

The old bell cranks are longer, so move the whole steering forward, which changes the ackerman as well (the piviot points in the steering would be different)

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Tamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X-steering-1.jpg   Tamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X-steering-2.jpg  
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Thanks Ed, did not know.. Thanks miccal for pointing that out, another surprise....

My guess they were put on there so more ackerman can be used without shimming the hell out of it..
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ahh you were looking at Tim's car... I was looking at sohlman's...

But your right, they are the 415 MSXX bell cranks... although you do have the 416 cross brace. Have a look at the two attached pics.

The old bell cranks are longer, so move the whole steering forward, which changes the ackerman as well (the piviot points in the steering would be different)

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Ed, that used to be my car. i put those on there to try out. ended up leaving them on there since i liked it better.
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Thanks miccal for pointing that out, another surprise....
No problem.

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Ed, that used to be my car. i put those on there to try out. ended up leaving them on there since i liked it better.
What was better about it?
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Ok guys, I'm having a bit of a handling issue and it's got me a bit stumped

Ever since getting back from the nationals last year I've had a lift off oversteer problem in the tightest corners of the tracks I race on. The only way I've been able to combat it is by lengthening the rear wheelbase but this is hurting my steering elsewhere. I'm running minimal rear droop so that's not the issue, and the only thing I've done differently to my old set ups running fractionally (2mm) more rebound at the rear than I did before. What's the best way to calm the whole thing down? I was thinking of going a little thicker with oil (running 400wt at the mo) all around and drilling vent holes in the top of the shock to take out some of the pack

also has anyone been able to make the WE front shock mounting positions work? it's been hard to tell with the issue above but whenever I incline my front shocks down to hole 2 on the damper stay my car seems slower
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