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Old 01-15-2009, 01:35 PM   #4036
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:52 PM   #4037
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STLNST : you have made a good choice, the MRE is a great car and real easy to drive or set up, easyer than the 416. the car can take a good beating. and when built in the right way, you will have no problems what so ever.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:14 PM   #4038
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STLNST : you have made a good choice, the MRE is a great car and real easy to drive or set up, easyer than the 416. the car can take a good beating. and when built in the right way, you will have no problems what so ever.

That's what I've seen at the track. I'm looking forward to running this car.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:41 PM   #4039
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Dameetz, those outdrives will not work, they are for the 415 series spool. The 416 spool outdrives are different. I used to use those but the hardenend dog bone pin tore through them pretty fast, that was in modified though, in other classes they might be fine.
Clint, if your going to run modified on asphalt, the 416 is a much better choice, a lot more stability. For carpet or stock, the MRE will be a real good car. Have fun!
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Dameetz, those outdrives will not work, they are for the 415 series spool. The 416 spool outdrives are different. I used to use those but the hardenend dog bone pin tore through them pretty fast, that was in modified though, in other classes they might be fine.
Clint, if your going to run modified on asphalt, the 416 is a much better choice, a lot more stability. For carpet or stock, the MRE will be a real good car. Have fun!
are we gonna see you at TCS this year?
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:32 PM   #4041
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Yep...passed on the 416. Until I get beat by one there's no need right
So all I'd have to do is come up there, race for a day, and you'd need to get a 416?
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:01 PM   #4042
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Dameetz, those outdrives will not work, they are for the 415 series spool. The 416 spool outdrives are different. I used to use those but the hardenend dog bone pin tore through them pretty fast, that was in modified though, in other classes they might be fine.
Clint, if your going to run modified on asphalt, the 416 is a much better choice, a lot more stability. For carpet or stock, the MRE will be a real good car. Have fun!
I'm not running mod anymore so I'm good but I have seen this car keep up and beat the local mod driver quite a few times so I think I'll be alright. I'm all 13.5 for now.

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So all I'd have to do is come up there, race for a day, and you'd need to get a 416?

Come on up. Better bring a 13.5 I remember the last time I issued a challenge was when the original jrxs came out. I offered to pay a racer's entry fee if they ever beat me with that car. Never had to pay up on that deal....I don't expect the 416 to ever handle like that car The price was killer so for what I'm getting.
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I'm new to RC, I want to know what pinion and supr i need for running 4.0 brushless and 23T motor? thanks
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:09 PM   #4044
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I'm new to RC, I want to know what pinion and supr i need for running 4.0 brushless and 23T motor? thanks
Ask the question in terms of your Final Drive Ratio (FDR).

FDR equals your spur teeth/pinion teeth times your Internal Ratio.

Your Internal Ratio is your diff pulley teeth/center pulley teeth. (If you ever run a shaft drive it's your ring gear/bevel gear). It's 2.06 for the TRF416.

To cover the two motor combos you've quoted I'd probably run the 105t kit spur.

I've run 23t and had good luck in the 6.25 to 6.5 FDR range. That's six cell.

So, with a 2.06 Internal Ratio, a 105t spur and a target FDR of 6.5 calculate your pinion thus:

2.06*105/6.5=33t pinion

Shoot for a motor temp between 140 and 160 deg. Fahrenheit. You shouldn't burn up brushes too badly there.

Can't help you on the 4.0 brushless. But if someone has a conservative ballpark FDR to start with you're good to go to calculate it yourself.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:12 PM   #4045
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Ask the question in terms of your Final Drive Ratio (FDR).

FDR equals your spur teeth/pinion teeth times your Internal Ratio.

Your Internal Ratio is your diff pulley teeth/center pulley teeth. (If you ever run a shaft drive it's your ring gear/bevel gear). It's 2.06 for the TRF416.

To cover the two motor combos you've quoted I'd probably run the 105t kit spur.

I've run 23t and had good luck in the 6.25 to 6.5 FDR range. That's six cell.

So, with a 2.06 Internal Ratio, a 105t spur and a target FDR of 6.5 calculate your pinion thus:

2.06*105/6.5=33t pinion

Shoot for a motor temp between 140 and 160 deg. Fahrenheit. You shouldn't burn up brushes too badly there.

Can't help you on the 4.0 brushless. But if someone has a conservative ballpark FDR to start with you're good to go to calculate it yourself.
22... check temp frequently..
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:50 PM   #4046
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Is there a front one way for 416WE? Can you pls give part no for it?
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Is there a front one way for 416WE? Can you pls give part no for it?
Yes, The original 416 came with one-way

3454520 TRF416 one way housing
9444623 TRF416 Freilauf Ausgänge

There is also availlable
49492 TRF416 "Middle One way" (Mittel-Freilauf Set)

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what the handling differences are between the two before I drop 80 bucks on the WE chassis.
One piece long top deck, battery moving forward, new motor bulckhead, front direct drive, new drive belts, front 1C/1C and rear 1XA/1F lower suspension brackets.
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One piece long top deck, battery moving forward, new motor bulckhead, front direct drive, new drive belts, front 1C/1C and rear 1XA/1F lower suspension brackets.
I think he was only asking if the new 416 WE chassis plate handles differently than the original 416 chassis and if it is worth getting one for his original 416.


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I think he was only asking if the new 416 WE chassis plate handles differently than the original 416 chassis and if it is worth getting one for his original 416.


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Has anyone tested the original 416 chassis and the WE chassis back to back?
I`m compare both chassis - my(416WE) and my buddy(416).
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