4LikesTamiya TRF416 / TRF416WE / TRF416X
12-30-2008, 11:10 AM
#3812
12-30-2008, 11:32 AM
#3813
I just got my WE up from my 416 and the setup is a bit different than what I had been running. A good day of testing will help me figure some things out though!
12-30-2008, 12:01 PM
#3814
What feel of the car does the 3 hole piston give you that is better for you than the two? Also, would that be with a kit/similar oil?
I just got my WE up from my 416 and the setup is a bit different than what I had been running. A good day of testing will help me figure some things out though!
I just got my WE up from my 416 and the setup is a bit different than what I had been running. A good day of testing will help me figure some things out though!
As for the feel, the 3 holes felt smoother and more consistent to drive, and coped much better with bumps. That's probably due to the reduced pack in the shock.
A good little guide on setting up the shocks is as follows (this is taken from Richard Taylors tuning tips for Losi off-roaders, but the same applies on-road)
To increase pack, go from an orange piston to a red piston (smaller piston holes = more pack). If this makes the car feel too stiff in roll, you can at the same time lower the weight of the oil, by 5 to 10 weight, this will still make the car stiffer initially but still have a soft feel once moving.
To decrease pack - go from an orange piston to a blue piston (bigger piston holes = less pack). If this makes the car feel too soft in roll, you can at the same time increase the weight of the oil, by 5 to 10 weight, this will still make the car feel softer initially but will still have a stiffer feel once moving.
To decrease pack - go from an orange piston to a blue piston (bigger piston holes = less pack). If this makes the car feel too soft in roll, you can at the same time increase the weight of the oil, by 5 to 10 weight, this will still make the car feel softer initially but will still have a stiffer feel once moving.
HiH
Ed
Last edited by TryHard; 12-30-2008 at 04:42 PM.
12-30-2008, 03:06 PM
#3815
Thanks for the help Ed!
I am going out to the old AV Tamiya track (well...I can dream since waking up is hard) and do a little testing so we'll see how it goes. from what I gather though, the changes in setup from my 416 to 416WE will be minor. I don't like the 3.5 rear toe angle, and running 13.5, it's way too extreme for me.
I am going out to the old AV Tamiya track (well...I can dream since waking up is hard) and do a little testing so we'll see how it goes. from what I gather though, the changes in setup from my 416 to 416WE will be minor. I don't like the 3.5 rear toe angle, and running 13.5, it's way too extreme for me.
12-31-2008, 03:32 AM
#3816
just tested my WE and honestly i dont feel the difference from my 416 with the Jilles set up.
Do you have the 416 with the short arms, just upgrade the topplate , dampers and the motor mount and save your buck
Do you have the 416 with the short arms, just upgrade the topplate , dampers and the motor mount and save your buck
01-01-2009, 01:05 PM
#3817
01-01-2009, 02:04 PM
#3818
The top deck isn't even really an upgrade, but a tuning option, right? All I really want is that and the new belts. The motor mount doesn't really seem like a big deal unless it's a lot lighter, since I'm not racing mod.
What's the story, exactly, on the new dampers? Do they hold more oil, or just smoother?
What's the story, exactly, on the new dampers? Do they hold more oil, or just smoother?
01-01-2009, 05:17 PM
#3819
hey dose any one know the spring rates of the Hara's match springs in lbs?
are they the same as the normal HPI spring lbs with the same color?
thanks
are they the same as the normal HPI spring lbs with the same color?
thanks
01-01-2009, 07:52 PM
#3820
guys, what is the different beetwen 416's dampers and 416 WE's dampers????
01-01-2009, 10:21 PM
#3821
01-01-2009, 10:24 PM
#3822
thx.
mmmhh..can i use WE's upper deck to my 416??
mmmhh..can i use WE's upper deck to my 416??
01-02-2009, 01:26 AM
#3823
01-02-2009, 01:27 AM
#3824
01-02-2009, 04:26 AM
#3825