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Old 12-03-2008, 04:46 PM   #3526
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I ordered mine from speedtech yesterday and should be here Friday!!!!!! Really nice people to deal with!
i was there last night. Jeff was packaging 20 416s.... it was madness. he stayed open late so i can come in to pick up my new kit. he has continued the superior customer service that steve wang started.
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You going to be at Tamiya on Sat?
unfortunately i wont be. im throwing a USC/UCLA football game party. sunday im gonna try to head out to beltran hobbies.

you drove my 416 at nats on crappy tires it was pretty dialed. but i need to get MORE dialed.
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I didn't realize you were running the Orion stuff now. The new ESC is awesome, feels like a Sphere TC but with more power, we ran it in 10.5 and mod and the power difference was crazy.
Can't wait to get my hands on a few new goodies.....
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Wait John, i have understood the question is not the people using 415 knuckles in this chassis, the matter is the old 416 use large arm, so the car could run 46mm axle with o-rings removed from the spool cups, isn't it?
I am just asking because i never had 416 chassis before, i am just measuring to have 1 with full option parts.

Hy!

I would say, that you can also use the same dogbones as the old 461 uses (also the 46mm ones) because the block combo wich is used with the short arms makes the same distance between the wells the same.

I also have no issues with my MSXXMRE, i also run the short arms, and the 46mm dogbones.

The Block combos i changed from:

Front: B-A to D-C
Rear: XA-C to A-E (2° toe in)

So when you change also the blocks, than it should be no problem at all.

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Anybody had any luck buying just the new TRF416WE parts?
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I didn't realize you were running the Orion stuff now. The new ESC is awesome, feels like a Sphere TC but with more power, we ran it in 10.5 and mod and the power difference was crazy.
I might have missed something but about what ESC are you talking?

I have bought an Orion as my first Brushless motor. I chose it just by intuition.
Most of my friends here drive LRP-motors so it's difficult to compare. Should I use the same ratio's as they do (similar car, similar motor-class (10.5 of 13.5 of 17.5) ... or look for a different ratio?

I noticed my Orion 17.5 stayed very cool compared to my friends LRP, but he had a higher topspeed, alldough we ran the same car and same ratio.
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I might have missed something but about what ESC are you talking?

I have bought an Orion as my first Brushless motor. I chose it just by intuition.
Most of my friends here drive LRP-motors so it's difficult to compare. Should I use the same ratio's as they do (similar car, similar motor-class (10.5 of 13.5 of 17.5) ... or look for a different ratio?

I noticed my Orion 17.5 stayed very cool compared to my friends LRP, but he had a higher topspeed, alldough we ran the same car and same ratio.
Hmmm, Either you got a bad bearing or he has better batteries.

I ordered one of those Orion speedos 007 . How is it? Linear , smooth... uhhh you got one ?
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Wait John, i have understood the question is not the people using 415 knuckles in this chassis, the matter is the old 416 use large arm, so the car could run 46mm axle with o-rings removed from the spool cups, isn't it?
I am just asking because i never had 416 chassis before, i am just measuring to have 1 with full option parts.
I've never used the O-ring. I use the centers of bodypost pads for that . also helps keep the dirt out of thrust bearing on a diff too. And yes on the spool if you have the delrin out drives. On carpet I like two one ways. I think also the length of the axle where the location of the drive pin is different , meaning the 415 and 416 have differnt uprights and axles, but do use the same CVD.
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I've never used the O-ring. I use the centers of bodypost pads for that . also helps keep the dirt out of thrust bearing on a diff too. And yes on the spool if you have the delrin out drives. On carpet I like two one ways. I think also the length of the axle where the location of the drive pin is different , meaning the 415 and 416 have differnt uprights and axles, but do use the same CVD.
Yeah you right, i was also thinking those black ones, sorry for my mistake to meaning those silicones kinds.
About the length i am convinced if i put diff in front could be possible to using 46mm, but i am not sure about that just because anybody in this forum don't like running 2 diffs.
For the carpet, i have heard about a rich guy around me had made some visit in those defuncted and deserted factories in the last moment to thinking rent them to making a carpet indoor track to organizing races. So i am convinced i need to start learning much more from your experiences maybe i have to buy 2 cars to running different surfaces
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:22 AM   #3535
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Hy there!

Today Hupo Hönigls RC-Carpetfun Winter Racetrack opens for the winterseason.
He himself was not there, but a few guys out there told me that the Tamiyadrivers at the worlds used finaly the old 416 style lower deck.

They said that the new, (more forward batt.) is also with 6cells not the best choice.

Here is a link to the homepage:

http://www.rc-carpetfun.typo.at

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I might have missed something but about what ESC are you talking?

I have bought an Orion as my first Brushless motor. I chose it just by intuition.
Most of my friends here drive LRP-motors so it's difficult to compare. Should I use the same ratio's as they do (similar car, similar motor-class (10.5 of 13.5 of 17.5) ... or look for a different ratio?

I noticed my Orion 17.5 stayed very cool compared to my friends LRP, but he had a higher topspeed, alldough we ran the same car and same ratio.
Orion has a new brushless ESC coming out in the very near future (should be available in a couple weeks or less now)

I don't have any experience with the LRP motors at all, so I really don't know how they run or how to gear them, but just try different gearing to see how it feels on your motor. If he's pulling you on the top end and your motor is cool try gearing up a tooth and you should be pretty equal.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:51 AM   #3537
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Hmmm, Either you got a bad bearing or he has better batteries.

I ordered one of those Orion speedos 007 . How is it? Linear , smooth... uhhh you got one ?
The ESC is 100% programmable with the KO computer software, so honestly you can make it feel however you want it to. If I had to compare it to anything I would say a LRP Sphere TC with 2-0-1 settings, but with more power in the mid to top end band.
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Can you use the existing KO handheld programer with VFS setting card on the new KO/Orion brushless ESCs?

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Can you use the existing KO handheld programer with VFS setting card on the new KO/Orion brushless ESCs?
That will be great if possible. I hope someone posts the answer.
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Can you use the existing KO handheld programer with VFS setting card on the new KO/Orion brushless ESCs?
As of now no, but I believe they are working on the software, not 100% sure.
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