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Old 11-22-2007, 04:06 PM   #331
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LOL must be something funny with the times , he quoted me 14min befor ei posted how impressed i was with qouting before it was posted.

327 and 328 are the posts now.



Has anyone heard that the blocks maybe different? i am hoping they are the same seems like a waste to use them for so long and have people end up with most of them and drop the blocks .
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:05 PM   #332
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That must be a problem with the forum software/servers because I saw it happen in a couple of other threads. It was kinda freaking me out at first.

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Old 11-22-2007, 08:11 PM   #333
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Front one-way standard? Nice, the 416 gets +1 in the "what car to buy next" column. :-)
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:17 PM   #334
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I guess Ling checked out Marc R's car in Japan and says the Orion 4800 is a perfect fit. So, cool that...

The way the servo fits in the car makes it look like you could get use a shorter servo like the 9550 and open up more space for a receiver and brushless ESC. Is that the case, or does the servo actually end up coming as far back as with cars that have them mounted the other way?
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:17 PM   #335
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Could somebody tell if TRF416 will include oneway or Spool?
If includes oneway then i want to run with Spool, will Tamiya release in short moments?
As i remember never could find before genuine spool of TRF415MRE then i have purchase the aftermarket ones which release always late.
Could anybody reply to me, please?

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Old 11-22-2007, 10:24 PM   #336
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So the TRF416 comes with a front one-way as standard?
I was asking if it does, not saying it does.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:47 PM   #337
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From earlier...

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Dear Mr.Clark

Hello,sir.
No,sir Front one-way will come with the TRF416 kit and not sure spool will be released separetely.
At the JMRCA,Marc Rheinard needed to use front one-way even though he prefers front spool because any spool like for TRF415 and TA05 does not fit to the TRF416 since width between both of front bulkheads is narrower than those cars.

Yes rumours are right,Taniya says they will release the TRF416 kit on 20th of December.
We have already decided our prices for this kit,those are as follows.

Tamiya TRF416 chassis kit Discounted price 42000Yen
Tamiya TRF416 chassis kit with Titanium screws Discounted price 45200Yen
Tamiya TRF416 chassis kit with Blue and Titanium screws Discounted price 45500Yen

If you have any question,please let me know,sir.
Thank you.
Best regards,
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:37 AM   #338
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I guess Ling checked out Marc R's car in Japan and says the Orion 4800 is a perfect fit. So, cool that...

The way the servo fits in the car makes it look like you could get use a shorter servo like the 9550 and open up more space for a receiver and brushless ESC. Is that the case, or does the servo actually end up coming as far back as with cars that have them mounted the other way?
Yes, you get more spece for the receiver and speedo by running a short servo like the Futaba or KO.

Since the motor has been moved slightly back compared to the TRF415 there should also be more spece between the servo and motor (if the servo is in the same position, that is...).
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:43 AM   #339
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Regarding the spool/one-way issue I believe there's a difference between the "Japan" and the "US" versions of the car.

In Japan (and the rest of Asia) the car will come with a one-way (confirmed). Tamiya USA have however said on their website from the start that the 416 will come with a spool.

Thought I read somewhere that the 416 will be released in the US around 1 month later than Japan (end of January) so a spool should be available then at latest?
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:09 AM   #340
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Has anyone heard that the blocks maybe different? i am hoping they are the same seems like a waste to use them for so long and have people end up with most of them and drop the blocks .
I would guess the blocks are very similar. Maybe they are slightly revised to allow easier "flipping" of the front-rear block, for belt clearance, similar to the X series, and the 415/TA05 E block. then should only need 3mm of shims, rather than the 5 and hacking away at the current blocks.

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Old 11-23-2007, 06:17 AM   #341
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That's to be difficult to confirm, but i don't think it could have 2 versions, this is not very common for Tamiya.
TamiyaUSA told kit with spool but now RC Champ could not confirme yet if will release separately due kit includes oneway, in the case Marc must use even he doesn't want to use.
I hope aftermarket will release spool in the same time as kit.

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I guess Ling checked out Marc R's car in Japan and says the Orion 4800 is a perfect fit. So, cool that...

The way the servo fits in the car makes it look like you could get use a shorter servo like the 9550 and open up more space for a receiver and brushless ESC. Is that the case, or does the servo actually end up coming as far back as with cars that have them mounted the other way?
Certainly using a low profile servo helps. Some drivers also space the servo forward off the mounts, although not something I've done recently (did it with some of my older cars though). This pic shows the space using a low profile servo (S9550) on the 415...
http://www.thard.co.uk/images/07/2007-9.jpg
..and certainly the 416 looks to have the servo in a similar position.

(Bear in mind, I am using a spectrum pro reciever, and an MRT TSX, not exactly massive electronics!)

Also, as Kentech mentions, the motor is further back too, so space shouldn't be a problem

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Tamiya Worlds just passed... anyone have anymore photos?
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:54 AM   #344
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I got to pick up Marc's and Victor's 416 at Tamiya Worlds.

My impressions so far:

The rear upright is now plastic, but there is absolutely no play (even less play than the AL 415 uprights) and it's now incredibly stiff. The bigger bearings and the increased bearing to bearing distance pays off.

The rear diff uses much bigger diff rings and more balls. It also has a hole drilled in it so that you can adjust the diff without taking anything apart.

The steering geometry is changed. The steering bellcrank looks to be moved forward so that the steering tierods are no longer swept forward. This should equate to smoother steering.

It's LIPO friendly and will easily fit an Orion 4800 lipo pack.

Looks absolutely great and the it basically adresses all the weak areas of the 415.
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Tamiya Worlds just passed... anyone have anymore photos?
I think I tooks some pics...just got to filter out all the schoolgirls and find the pics of the 416.
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