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Old 11-19-2007, 11:21 AM   #316
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Oh, maybe I misunderstood some of the things I was reading previously in the 415 thread about attempting to change its internal ratio. I'm still fresh off a foam background, so I'm still speaking rollout. With LiPo and a LRP or 13mm Novak 13.5, I'm anywhere from 46 to 50mm.
Ahh, ok. TBH, there isn't much of an issue in terms of gearing. There's just a number of options that are avaliable for the 415 in terms of internal ratio. A lot of the options are to do with improving the belt wrap, and efficiency of the drivetrain, rather than anyone having issues getting correct gearing

Seems the most popular option at the moment is 36t diff pulleys with 18t centre pulleys, giving a IR of 2.0 dead on.

The 416 is coming with 37/18 in terms of pulleys, giving an IR of 2.056. I've done some quick rollout calcs, and, should be possible to get the roll outs required. 50mm might be a struggle on smaller tyres though, but then again I think that would be the same for most other cars. (Not being a foam runner myself didn't really know what sort of diameters to look at, took a stab at about 54-56)

One advantage of the 416 is the ability to raise the centre shaft for larger spurs (if required).

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Old 11-19-2007, 04:05 PM   #317
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The reason I started to think in this direction is that atlas stickers are on both satoshis, Victors and marcs cars. Team much more would be a more logical choice if they needed more batteries (which they sure needed, 4cell -> oneruns) as they are all sponsered by them. Team Atlas also was the partner of the 414 series and satoshi has ties with that company since before joining tamiya.
But hey, I could be wrong just some thinking from my part

the "atlas" is referring to the body - the Team Atlas G350GT
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:38 PM   #318
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I apologize for the newb questions, Tamiya is still a mystery to me, and there's a LOT of stuff out there.

The spring kit only contains 4 spring rates, correct? I see a lot of people using springs from AE, is this for fine tuning? Also, there seems to be a white spring kit that was discontinued. I think white springs would be pretty cool looking. :-)

What's the story on this car (and its predecessors) as far as carpet/rubber tires go? Is it intended for that style of racing, or does it truly belong on asphalt, and shoehorned into carpet? I realize it's probably not an ideal foam car... I'll probably have to get a Phi for that.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:25 AM   #319
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The all white kit was discontinued, but I believe you can get the Milky blue set still. It contains white, blue yellow and red springs. All of which are pretty soft. I've used the AE springs to get harder rates than what Tamiya offers and they fit perfect.

I think the car should be awesome on carpet with rubber tires as thats what a lot of the European races are on. My 05 and 05R are beasts on carpet with rubber tires.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:51 AM   #320
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The all white kit was discontinued, but I believe you can get the Milky blue set still. It contains white, blue yellow and red springs. All of which are pretty soft. I've used the AE springs to get harder rates than what Tamiya offers and they fit perfect.

I think the car should be awesome on carpet with rubber tires as thats what a lot of the European races are on. My 05 and 05R are beasts on carpet with rubber tires.
Cool, looks like they're still around like you said. I'm gonna need a capable asphalt car when I move, they do a lot of outdoor racing during the summer in Denver.

One of these Sundays, bring that TA05 out with you and run some rubber with us, we've been having a lot of fun. Mini is low-maintenance enough to do a second class, right? :-)
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:32 AM   #321
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Looks like the first race is under the belt of the new 416: http://www.tamiya.com/english/info/0...mrca/index.htm

Now everyone will have to have one......

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Old 11-22-2007, 12:15 PM   #322
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So the TRF416 comes with a front one-way as standard?
So it seems...
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:21 PM   #323
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News from RC Champ - 20th Dec it is

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Hello,sir.
No,sir Front one-way will come with the TRF416 kit and not sure spool will be released separetely.
At the JMRCA,Marc Rheinard needed to use front one-way even though he prefers front spool because any spool like for TRF415 and TA05 does not fit to the TRF416 since width between both of front bulkheads is narrower than those cars.

Yes rumours are right,Taniya says they will release the TRF416 kit on 20th of December.
We have already decided our prices for this kit,those are as follows.

Tamiya TRF416 chassis kit Discounted price 42000Yen
Tamiya TRF416 chassis kit with Titanium screws Discounted price 45200Yen
Tamiya TRF416 chassis kit with Blue and Titanium screws Discounted price 45500Yen

If you have any question,please let me know,sir.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:24 PM   #324
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So the TRF416 comes with a front one-way as standard?
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Wasn´t the white spring kit the same as the onroad kit with the white, blue yellow and red springs with just the springs completely in white colour with a small colour index on top like the HPI Pro4 springs? Or am I wrong and hardness is different?
That's correct!
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:29 PM   #326
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The all white kit was discontinued, but I believe you can get the Milky blue set still. It contains white, blue yellow and red springs. All of which are pretty soft. I've used the AE springs to get harder rates than what Tamiya offers and they fit perfect.

I think the car should be awesome on carpet with rubber tires as thats what a lot of the European races are on. My 05 and 05R are beasts on carpet with rubber tires.
Wasn´t the white spring kit the same as the onroad kit with the white, blue yellow and red springs with just the springs completely in white colour with a small colour index on top like the HPI Pro4 springs? Or am I wrong and hardness is different?
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:46 PM   #327
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Very impressed how you quoted him before he posted thats rather impressive LOL.
Can't do it everytime but yeah....I can be R E A L L Y fassssst
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Very impressed how you quoted him before he posted thats rather impressive LOL.

Case anyone didnt see post 325 is a qoute of post 326
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Wasn´t the white spring kit the same as the onroad kit with the white, blue yellow and red springs with just the springs completely in white colour with a small colour index on top like the HPI Pro4 springs? Or am I wrong and hardness is different?
You are right.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:06 PM   #330
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Very impressed how you quoted him before he posted thats rather impressive LOL.

Case anyone didnt see post 325 is a qoute of post 326
I have the same thing.... Post 322 is my quote for post 324..??!
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