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Old 11-01-2008, 11:44 PM   #3136
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hi mate, im using my lrp sphere tc spec with the lrp vector x11 10.5 motor so i would hope its not drawing too much current...orion 3800 lipo in use also..
No, you're right, that shouldn't be that bad a draw on your system, so I'd say go ahead & try the capacitor idea as we mentioned earlier, & if it still acts up badly, then maybe there's something going on with your ESC....
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:34 PM   #3137
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hi,i was looking at Jilles Groskamp setup using D,D,XA,E as suspension mounts.
is my impression or the use of this mounts will make the car wider then the stock one???
thanx
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:46 PM   #3138
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hi,i was looking at Jilles Groskamp setup using D,D,XA,E as suspension mounts.
is my impression or the use of this mounts will make the car wider then the stock one???
thanx
He's probably using the short suspension arms.
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:53 PM   #3139
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WHAT difference would make with short or long arms???
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:18 PM   #3140
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WHAT difference would make with short or long arms???
short arms = more grip
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hi,i was looking at Jilles Groskamp setup using D,D,XA,E as suspension mounts.
is my impression or the use of this mounts will make the car wider then the stock one???
thanx
should have looked a bit more intense:

Jilles clearly stated he used other A-arms: the evo-arms which are shorter.

but then ... his setup-page is such a mess I had difficulties reading it also
So I made a new one with his setup:

Jilles Groskamp HPI-setup (PDF-document)
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:20 PM   #3142
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SO IF I KEEP THE LONG ARMS I WOULD LOOSE GRIP.
I WILL TRY FIRST WITH THE LONG AND SEE HOW IT FEEL.
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:12 PM   #3143
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check this out fellas!
chedda bob made some steel plates for lipo users to fill a need for my 416 and 3800 orion packs. It fits like a glove and weighs almost 4 oz. putting it all down low where u want it instead of up on the pack. pm him or me if u want more info on them. .apparently he makes them for several aplications. I hope these attached pic work and are of assistance . notice that its totally stealthed out from the top. the pach locks into place and is totally flush with the bottom of the chassis.. nice work chedda!

give chedda bob a p.m. and he will be happy to help you find the right one for your car.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:16 AM   #3144
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check this out fellas!
chedda bob made some steel plates for lipo users to fill a need for my 416 and 3800 orion packs. It fits like a glove and weighs almost 4 oz. putting it all down low where u want it instead of up on the pack. pm him or me if u want more info on them. .apparently he makes them for several aplications. I hope these attached pic work and are of assistance . notice that its totally stealthed out from the top. the pach locks into place and is totally flush with the bottom of the chassis.. nice work chedda!
It's a nice idea to have the bumps that fit the bottom of the pack. I assume it's lead if it weighs that much?

I still prefer my ppd, it's beautifully machined. Since I took these pics I've ditched the lipo lead because I went back to using a full weight body

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Old 11-03-2008, 02:08 AM   #3145
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check this out fellas!
chedda bob made some steel plates for lipo users to fill a need for my 416 and 3800 orion packs. It fits like a glove and weighs almost 4 oz. putting it all down low where u want it instead of up on the pack. pm him or me if u want more info on them. .apparently he makes them for several aplications. I hope these attached pic work and are of assistance . notice that its totally stealthed out from the top. the pach locks into place and is totally flush with the bottom of the chassis.. nice work chedda!


thanks again for the pics john, glad you like it bud


anyone thats interested shoot me a pm. ideally i would like $40 shipped for them as they are kinda a pita to machine, and thats including paypal fees, shipping, etc
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SO IF I KEEP THE LONG ARMS I WOULD LOOSE GRIP.
I WILL TRY FIRST WITH THE LONG AND SEE HOW IT FEEL.
Short arms do not equal more grip.
If you would think of it as changing the fulcrum point and how it effects the roll center you would see that its all about the ratio and angle of the upper arm to the lower arm and the position (triangulation) of the pivot points .
If a shorter arm could give you more grip the losi car would be world champ.
but if you also notice the upper arm is very short as well on the losi. Its all about the ratio of the 2 arms and their angle that they are mounted on. Usually a shoryet arm mean the lower inner mount is wider and thats what you need to look at. Not just the length of the arm. If I could see what lower hinge pin mounts he used .. probably 1E or even F if they exist... thats what you need to look at....
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HE USE D,D,XA,E
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:58 PM   #3148
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Short arms do not equal more grip.
If you would think of it as changing the fulcrum point and how it effects the roll center you would see that its all about the ratio and angle of the upper arm to the lower arm and the position (triangulation) of the pivot points .
If a shorter arm could give you more grip the losi car would be world champ.
but if you also notice the upper arm is very short as well on the losi. Its all about the ratio of the 2 arms and their angle that they are mounted on. Usually a shoryet arm mean the lower inner mount is wider and thats what you need to look at. Not just the length of the arm. If I could see what lower hinge pin mounts he used .. probably 1E or even F if they exist... thats what you need to look at....
thats what I said, short arms with the proper suspension blocks = more grip

fyi F blocks exist, but most setups use XA/E at the rear. Note that if you use D/D and XA/E your front track will be wider than the front by 1mm i.e. most setups using that combo use spacers in the rear. I prefer C/C XA/E and 1/2mm spacer in the rear
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what are the changes on the World Champion Edition?
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #3150
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what are the changes on the World Champion Edition?
two obvious ones i know of are the one piece top deck. and it comes with a spool. might have the new TRF shocks too. the other guys will chime in on what else is new.
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