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Old 06-11-2008, 05:11 AM   #2326
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Is there also an english version of that list?

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Hi mate. Try googling the part numbers along with Tamiya. You will then find the English descriptions - mostly from Tamiya USA.
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:16 AM   #2327
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Hey all,

been a bit quite recently, but starting to get more active with my car, mainly as I have my one and only national next month (and in mod, talk about deep end).

As part of this, I finally found a use for my old broken 415 MRE chassis plate... and have made up some carbon steering cross braces for the 416. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but a lot of guys at the Reedy race were either a) not running the alloy brace but a carbon one (Hupo for sure), or b) not running the screw that connects the to top deck.

Thinking about this, I remembered I had the old chassis plate I split down the side from my 415. Given the screw holes are the same width as for the steering on the 415 as the 416, I thought I could make a brace up by using that plate... turns out I was able to make some more too.

So, if anyone would like one, PM me. I'll only ask that you cover postage (they are hand finished after all, and, well the quality isn't mega, but hey, it'll work) to wherever in the world.

I'll get some pics up tonight.

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We should start calling you Eagle Eyed Ed from now on... Is it the same as the MSX plate?

As for not using the screw... I wonder if this originated from Norway...
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:10 AM   #2328
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i have only run the car a few times, but i have never run the top deck screw, installing the screw seemed to put a tweak in the chassis. if you look down the empty hole the threads are not perfectly centered.

i also saw the carbon plate, but i was thinking its mostly for weight saving, and i think that leaving the brace there will support the top deck in a crash better
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:21 AM   #2329
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I have tried the steering plate, but didn`t like it a bit. In my point of view the car stayed in the corners on exit.... but some of the other drivers kept using it.
I think you should give it a try en see for yourself. I didn`t like it.
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:21 AM   #2330
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We should start calling you Eagle Eyed Ed from now on... Is it the same as the MSX plate?

As for not using the screw... I wonder if this originated from Norway...
Yup. I haven't actually test fitted the parts yet, but if IIRC, the width spacing of all the screw holes (bulkhead, steering, suspension blocks) on the bottom of the 416 chassis plate is the same width apart... which are also the same width as the front end screws of the 415.

Hence why it shold fit fine

I've never found that adding in the screw to add tweak, but then again I did find the hole a little tight to begin with, so ran a round file up and down through the top deck hole to solve it... guess it's just a little then.
Certainly for indoor work I will probably use the mount to help stiffen up the front, but outdoors, I can see a benefit in having a slightly more flexible front end. Worth a try anyway

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quick pic of the brace... I have another 6 made up (anyone else tell I was bored at work today?)

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:35 PM   #2332
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Hi veecee..

What is the difference between the new block and the old one?

Can't the old one be inverted too?

44mm steel.. Cool for mods..

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Looks like the new toe blocks are being released soon - from 1XD to 1F - all of which can be flipped upside down. 44mm steel driveshafts also on their way.

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/news0807/news1.htm
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Hi veecee..

What is the difference between the new block and the old one?

Can't the old one be inverted too?

44mm steel.. Cool for mods..
Hi mate. Up until now, I believe only the X-series blocks can be inverted. When the 416 was released, the non X-series blocks that came with this car were modified so they can be inverted. With the release of these new blocks, they can now all be inverted. The only other change would be the nicer font used to label the blocks?!?! And of course there is a new "F" block.
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Wow TRYHARD that ws quick took you No time to make that brace tell me what you think after you test
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Wow TRYHARD that ws quick took you No time to make that brace tell me what you think after you test
Why????? You're not racing again until next years Reedy race....LOL
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Can someone pls tell me what parts are needed to complete the short arm conversion for the 416? I have yet to do it, but my car handles like a dream already. I can only hope it gets better....

On a sidetrack, I have a great setup for the 416 that I used @ the recent TCS race here in CA. If anyone is interested on a setup for the car with Tamiya B3 tires, shoot me a line. (I used the Skyline body, FYI).
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Can someone pls tell me what parts are needed to complete the short arm conversion for the 416? I have yet to do it, but my car handles like a dream already. I can only hope it gets better....
From the 416 tips and tricks guide (here)

2x TAM53928 Each set contains 1 Front and 1 rear arm.. thats it

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On a sidetrack, I have a great setup for the 416 that I used @ the recent TCS race here in CA. If anyone is interested on a setup for the car with Tamiya B3 tires, shoot me a line. (I used the Skyline body, FYI).
Always after good setups... I have a blank sheet over on my site if you want to fill it in then post it here and there. http://www.thard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=11

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From the 416 tips and tricks guide (here)

2x TAM53928 Each set contains 1 Front and 1 rear arm.. thats it



Always after good setups... I have a blank sheet over on my site if you want to fill it in then post it here and there. http://www.thard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=11

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Thanks Ed, but I was under the impression that in order to use the short arms I'd have to change my entire suspension block setup??? Was I misinformed?
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Martin, are you racing at Marin this weekend?? If so, I will be glad to help you out on your short arm conversion. You need to run a different combo of suspension blocks and a couple other minor changes. There's been a lot set up sheets posted on this thread also that you can check out to get familiar with what they are changing.
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Thanks Ed, but I was under the impression that in order to use the short arms I'd have to change my entire suspension block setup??? Was I misinformed?
Depends, you do not need specific blocks to run the short arms.
Most people have been running XA-E blocks at the rear (3 degrees) and D-D or C-C up front. You should in any case have a set the various blocks so you can try different set ups...


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