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Old 10-08-2007, 10:54 PM   #181
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Hey, did no one notice these scans yet?

Finally some pictures of the real TRF416 to be displayed at the Tokyo Hobby Show this week!

Nevermind the plastic bulkheads and stuff...they're just rapid prototype parts.

Thanks to RC Market, just what I asked for!
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:00 PM   #182
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when is the show...whats the dates?
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:09 PM   #183
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Finally a full lenght top deck again

Looking forward to take this baby out for a drive!!
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:20 AM   #184
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i want one...
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:34 AM   #185
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when is the show...whats the dates?
This weekend Hobby show we`ll know more..
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:29 AM   #186
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Separating the motor mount out is interesting. I guess the idea is to make side-to-side flex more consistent. Not that I will be able to tell the difference anyway...
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:54 AM   #187
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Certainly looks like equal side to side flex is the name of the game...The rear motor mount is pretty interesting, with all material cut away that isn't needed, and an extension "looping" round for the upper screw hole, completely missing the top deck... I like
Interesting little extension out of the lower section of the mount too, looks like it's to mount centrally to the chassis... again, equal side to side flex.

Other things I've spotted.... even versus the pre-production pics from earlier.

Spur splits the belt now (a la Cyclone, BD, 008), and 18t pulleys.

Looks like the many ball rear diff is in use, I guess 37t pulleys as well.

New bulkheads all round, bottom and top... revised mounting positions? or just adopting the 05MS version of belt adjustment? (notches in the bearig holder). Also, loses the material that hangs over the top of the cells on the RR bulkhead... LiPo compatable

Long top deck. Now I can't tell for sure from thoose photos, but it seems to be a one piece, and loop behind the spur, and hold the whole rear section together. Makes getting at the spur a little harder (11 screws needed to remove the top deck by the look of it), but should be better flex wise

Counter sunk shock towers!!!! woop

Revised steering... looks like the bell cranks are mounted higher (a la the reedy cars earlier in the year), with the cross braces underneath the bell cranks. I guess this is for better front belt clearance.

The top brace on the steering posts attaches centrally to the top deck (second picture).

I wonder if the steering is mounted further back too, looks like a lot of spacers behind the ball joints on the brace...

Set screw antiroll bar mounts (finally).

Still using the standard length LWT arms.

5cell ready chassis... the slots are there, wonder if its 2mm or 2.5mm?

New inner servo mount... looks like the belt passes very close to the servo, wonder if you have to loose a lower lug for clearence?

I'll keep looking for a while, might spot some more bits

Fingers crossed to see proper pics this weekend... but even from thoose, I'm glad I already have a pre-order in for one

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Old 10-09-2007, 05:45 AM   #188
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Long top deck. Now I can't tell for sure from thoose photos, but it seems to be a one piece, and loop behind the spur, and hold the whole rear section together. Makes getting at the spur a little harder (11 screws needed to remove the top deck by the look of it), but should be better flex wise

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Ed if you look closely, I think it has a two piece upper deck. so maybe 9 screws for the main deck, and 4 screws for the rear deck?
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:46 AM   #189
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Ed if you look closely, I think it has a two piece upper deck. so maybe 9 screws for the main deck, and 4 screws for the rear deck?
I also agree with you. I was looking closely as well at the inset pictures showing the rear bulkhead and it looks like a small piece of grahite plate (u shaped) is secured with 4 screws. I guess with that layout, rear diff/spurgear maintenance should not be of an issue that much. I do have one question for the front diff unit though. Is the front diff still in the center position or is it in the same position like the rear except on the opposite side since the belts are running near the edge of the bulkeads. If they did change the front diff/belt position, then the rear ball diff can be used also in the front which is a benefit for those who like to run a front ball diff unit (carpet set-up or asphalt) rather than a spool/1-way unit.

Hope to see more details and final production pictures of the new car soon!
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:54 AM   #190
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The top deck has to be two piece otherwise you wouldn't be able to remove the rear belt w/o cutting it. Installing a new belt would be a small problem too.
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Yup that all makes sense... two pieces it is Looking cloer, looks like the small rear brace attachs by two screws to the rear bulkhead, and two to the motor/centre shaft mount. So that makes 9 screws to remove the layshaft (4 front, 4 rear, 1 above the steering).

I would certainly guess that the front/rear diff can be interchanged...Looks like the spur is now bang on the centreline.

I'm also pretty convinced that the inner servo mount stradles the front belt too... look closely at the first pic, top left. The mount mounts to the chassis centreline, and is L-shaped to the top lug on the servo.... certainly looks like a need to remove the lower lug of the servo now Least it means the servo has moved outwards with change on belt position... clever buggers

Something else, I've just realised... could the top deck be higher? look at the level of the top deck versus the centre shaft...
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:06 AM   #192
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did the rear belt get shorter?
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:18 AM   #193
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NICE!!! Someone was really had been hacking to the Tamiya Site before, and post the fake TRF416 for us not to drool at... Maybe a competitor rc brand??? Or rather a someone who just wants to test his limitations... Hahaha... Who knows... Anyway, again, a nice kit to have in anyone's collection...
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did the rear belt get shorter?
I don't know about shorter, given the pulleys are larger, but I given the previous info, the motor is closer to the rear diff....
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NICE!!! Someone was really had been hacking to the Tamiya Site before, and post the fake TRF416 for us not to drool at... Maybe a competitor rc brand??? Or rather a someone who just wants to test his limitations... Hahaha... Who knows... Anyway, again, a nice kit to have in anyone's collection...
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The pictures on Tamiya USA are still the current official pictures we have. As stated on the page though, they are of the prototype and not the finished product.
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