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Old 09-24-2007, 03:31 AM   #151
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I would say that the chassis may not be 100% production yet, though putting a couple of slots in for 5 cells is not a big job

Looking closely (as I said before) you can see that the car is quite a bit different, and reflects Tamiya's design philosphy of being "optimised" for brushless and handout tyres.

Optimised for brushless because it uses the bigger diff / layshaft pulleys to beef up the drivetrain.

Optimised for hand-out tyres because there is more flex built into the car as there are no steering posts connecting to the longer top deck, and the rear bulkheads are now split (cyclone style) and joined by thin carbon piece.

Not it's not revolutionary, but overall it's different enough from the original 415 to be called a new car
Man you saved me a great deal of time. I was going to write these.

Yes the car is quite different actually. it has much more flex within the design. good or bad we have to see.

the only disappointment I have is the servo position. I want that servo rotated 90 degrees. I guess we will use the dremel and shoegoo trick again...
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:33 AM   #152
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the only disappointment I have is the servo position. I want that servo rotated 90 degrees. I guess we will use the dremel and shoegoo trick again...
Why is that?
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:55 AM   #153
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they ran out of space for the 415MSXXXX WC 2 XX MMMSSS can only go so far
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:41 AM   #154
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the only disappointment I have is the servo position. I want that servo rotated 90 degrees. I guess we will use the dremel and shoegoo trick again...
..thing is, there is no way you'll get a servo rotated 90 deg to work with the steering system, as the connecting links would all be wrong. For the system in use, your stuck with that layout, which in my mind, is no problem at all..

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:02 PM   #155
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Intresting to compare how much faster that new 416 will be than my MRE
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:08 PM   #156
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Intresting to compare how much faster that new 416 will be than my MRE
My same thoughts exactly.
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:06 AM   #157
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..thing is, there is no way you'll get a servo rotated 90 deg to work with the steering system, as the connecting links would all be wrong. For the system in use, your stuck with that layout, which in my mind, is no problem at all..

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actually it all works and translates into a lighter steering design. istead of the whole bellcrank system use a centered steering with on L shaped belcrank. the only problem is the center mounted belt on the 415. I thought of putting belcranck on a carbon brace which is raised with 2 posts over the belt.

The reason I wanted this is because the the outer mounting screw for the servo constantly scrapes the ground. you I end up shaving the carbon and omiting the screw all together.
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Intresting to compare how much faster that new 416 will be than my MRE
I was thinking the same and I think they will be the same speed which already blazing fast. But from what I see the 416 will be much easier to tune in low traction or/and with hard tire usage

My MRE felt very stable and drove excellent with 24 to 28 shore tires. It will be very interesting to compare the two cars. I hope some parts are atleast interchangable (like the toe blocks)
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:39 PM   #159
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On carpet...still can't beat the 415.

Pic from 2008 Vegas:

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On carpet...still can't beat the 415.

Pic from 2008 Vegas:

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tamiya needs to replicate the original 415 and give it "easy access" bulkheads.
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tamiya needs to replicate the original 415 and give it "easy access" bulkheads.
still looks like the original 415 is the car to have on carpet.

Glad I still have mine
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looks like it might be an MS to me, LW suspension, OG drivetrain... cool.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:20 PM   #163
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On carpet...still can't beat the 415.

Pic from 2008 Vegas:

http://www.rc50.com/modules.php?name...756&fullsize=1
You mean 2007 wright?

That`s Hupos car, but what about Marc? I`d like to see that new 416 in action and how it perform on carpet?
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:15 AM   #164
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I have a 415 Refine 2 tamiya. Haven't run much on carpet but was thinking about doing some this year. Does anybody have a good baseline carpet setup for both rubber and foam racing? Thanks for the help...
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:03 AM   #165
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What!!!?? TRF 416? im going reverse.TAM# gone mad. anybody wanna let go the 414m2?
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