The One True 13.5 Thread
#646
Tech Master
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I think its cuz alot of the brushed guys are still holding out. Many of them are the top club racers that have alot of influence on everyone else. So when they go to switch Novak is scared "the brushed feel" will win too many of them and have a large impact on their beloved marketshare. Combine that with butt ugly colors and whoola...Houston...you have a problem.
#648
Tech Master
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LRP 13.5 sintered vs Novak Pro 13.5 13mm
I now have had time to run both. Yesterday I ran 3 packs each motor back to back. Lap times were very close to identical...but these are still 2 different feel motors.
The Novak 13mm does have more drag brake feel then the stock 12.5mm the pro comes with...BUT...not as much as the LRP. Also the LRP still has the nod on the torque coming out of corners, while the Novak had a small amount more on top.
I recently found my temp gage to be off a good 10 degs.+ so I have a better one coming, but Novak at 4.72 and LRP at 4.87 seemed to be a real good spot for both coming off at a true 145 or so after 8 mins.
One thing I noticed, it takes some time to be able to swap back and forth and learn to drive them. After running the Novak a few weeks, then switching to the LRP I found myself scrubbing speed coming into corners. With the LRP some corners I hit neutral in the Novak, required just off neutral with the LRP or a longer delay to maintain speed.
3 of my best 4 lap times (- 2 tenths @14.5) were with the Novak, and I believe alot of that is due to I've developed a feel with this layout to that motor. I can see that with different layouts that a motor swap could provide an advantage...but I cant personally pick between them yet...except for looks the LRP has the nod...
I now have had time to run both. Yesterday I ran 3 packs each motor back to back. Lap times were very close to identical...but these are still 2 different feel motors.
The Novak 13mm does have more drag brake feel then the stock 12.5mm the pro comes with...BUT...not as much as the LRP. Also the LRP still has the nod on the torque coming out of corners, while the Novak had a small amount more on top.
I recently found my temp gage to be off a good 10 degs.+ so I have a better one coming, but Novak at 4.72 and LRP at 4.87 seemed to be a real good spot for both coming off at a true 145 or so after 8 mins.
One thing I noticed, it takes some time to be able to swap back and forth and learn to drive them. After running the Novak a few weeks, then switching to the LRP I found myself scrubbing speed coming into corners. With the LRP some corners I hit neutral in the Novak, required just off neutral with the LRP or a longer delay to maintain speed.
3 of my best 4 lap times (- 2 tenths @14.5) were with the Novak, and I believe alot of that is due to I've developed a feel with this layout to that motor. I can see that with different layouts that a motor swap could provide an advantage...but I cant personally pick between them yet...except for looks the LRP has the nod...
Last edited by PitNamedGordie; 07-18-2008 at 01:23 PM.
#649
Tech Elite
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I think its cuz alot of the brushed guys are still holding out. Many of them are the top club racers that have alot of influence on everyone else. So when they go to switch Novak is scared "the brushed feel" will win too many of them and have a large impact on their beloved marketshare. Combine that with butt ugly colors and whoola...Houston...you have a problem.
#650
Tech Master
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So would you say the 13mm rotor was better than the stock rotor? I have been interested in trying one. Also I run the stock rotor at 4.68 right now on a 100X36 track. Our track has a long straight but has a technical infield (See pic). Should I go down to 4.3-4.4 with a 13mm rotor?
#652
And even though I sound like a jerk about this, I don't mean to be. This race was setting up to be a true showdown of the 13.5 motors, with open rules for the foam classes. Now, it's just a glorified BRL* race where you can either run Novak, or the Feigao which probably won't have a prayer in its current form. Yay.
* With all due respect to BRL, which is an awesome racing league. They don't hide the fact that it's Novak only, which is fine if you call it what it is. Novak seems to be bending the rules to their advantage in this "open" race, which I think really sucks.
#653
Tech Master
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.....This race was setting up to be a true showdown of the 13.5 motors, with open rules for the foam classes. Now, it's just a glorified BRL* race where you can either run Novak, or the Feigao which probably won't have a prayer in its current form. Yay.
* With all due respect to BRL, which is an awesome racing league. They don't hide the fact that it's Novak only, which is fine if you call it what it is. Novak seems to be bending the rules to their advantage in this "open" race, which I think really sucks.
* With all due respect to BRL, which is an awesome racing league. They don't hide the fact that it's Novak only, which is fine if you call it what it is. Novak seems to be bending the rules to their advantage in this "open" race, which I think really sucks.
How ironic, Novak sells products to compete in competition, yet clearly shows they are afraid of it....way to lead by example.
Last edited by Verndog; 01-01-2008 at 03:58 PM.
#654
Tech Master
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They asked to have motors sent for apporval for the race. No companies sent motors in to be looked at. They made the rules around their motor as that is what they had. They said that stuff will be looked at the race and if available to the public, it should be allowed. Charlie posted this in the race thread.
#655
Company Representative
Before some of you beat Novak up over this, why not wait and see what the guys decide to do. I have a call into Bob, who is en route to the race this morning. If he is able to call me back, I will post his response here.
#656
Tell Bob fer me ...
You R still da man !!!!
You R still da man !!!!
#658