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Old 04-03-2009, 10:27 AM   #661
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Translated the copy from that page too, cleaned it up where I could with my

Whether Tamiya has lost ground the M05 and F104 will make up for lost ground and will soon show up. Urgent renovation need exists anyhow in both classes. In RC of sport now the new chassis were introduced. With the F104 pro was turned the accumulator around 90 degrees and now lengthwise accommodated. The feathers/springs of the front axle perform its service under the lower wishbone. Lower (3,2mm) and upper (2,0mm) chassis deck are from carbon; the T-bar from 1,5mm strong fever glass. The rear axle is again from carbon. the TRF absorber is in the same blue as the Differential is made of aluminum. That everything is running on ball bearings, is natural. The mini chassis M05 pro will have in the back aluminum wheel carriers. The horn of the Servosavers is likewise from aluminum. The absorbers grumble themselves " CVA super Mini" and befedert with TRF Short jump. Many balls, nuts and Spacer are contained also in aluminum execution. The servo walked finally of the very unfavorable upper position to the rear. Chevron offered already a change kit for it.
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:23 PM   #662
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Gotta say I'm pretty impressed by the look of both the cars.
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:22 AM   #663
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:52 AM   #664
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^ I like it!
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:27 AM   #665
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Oh well, guess my 15th Anniversary car gets turned into a shelf queen sooner rather than later.
I wouldnt count on it. There are reasons the F103 is 15 years old. Its works great!!. The front suspension on this is asking for trouble.
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:09 AM   #666
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It will be interesting to see the how it compares to the 103 on the track...
A weaker front suspension isn't all bad... it will force drivers to make cleaner passes
someone might want to start a F104 Pro thread....
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:59 AM   #667
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f104 is nice. but for long races with pitstops, f103 is still good.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:11 AM   #668
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So a couple observations about this new car by looking at the pictures...

Looks like it has the F103GT front axles...meaning probably means different size wheels and tires.

It's definitely not a "T" plate, more of a flex plate design.

It appears the pod is a separate piece from the flex plate.

Definitely not Brushless friendly with that teenie tiny mounting plate.

There's a TON of ackerman to be created with that steering link sweep.

The tires, especially the rear, appear to be considerably narrower than the current F103 tires

It appears to be narrower and longer than the F103.

If you look closely at the underside of the chassis, the bolt pattern and the slots, it looks like it will accept the current and the updated front end too.

What I really would have liked to have seen is a front end similar to the old HPI Super F1 (Had reactive caster, adjustable camber, and you could go from trailing to in-line axles in 2 seconds), a lay-down servo configuration, and a 1/12-scale style rear end with damper tubes instead of pucks and CRC-style side springs. Also if they were going to change the rear wheels, which it looks like they have, why not incorporate an updated rear hub design that you can swap tires from side to side without having to reset the diff?

Not going to dis the car too harshly yet, but must admit I am not really digging it...
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:36 PM   #669
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OMG!!!! We NEED better pictures!
Hey Csaari77! How's it going in Huntsville these days? Any F1 action? The 2009 F1 AllStar Tour will be starting up soon so come by when you can and make some laps with us. We have two F1 classes to chose from and the usual bunch of characters to race with.

As for the F104 does it look serious enough to run with the big dogs now? The Hyperdrives, MLP's, CRC's, Alpha's and Corallys will be waiting for it here to see if it can hang or if it will be put back in the 103 spec class. Glad to see you are still out there.
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I love my f103r. It is sooo sexy...

I finally ran my new f103 with rubber tires (superion rear) and it is hooked.
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What I really would have liked to have seen is a front end similar to the old HPI Super F1 (Had reactive caster, adjustable camber, and you could go from trailing to in-line axles in 2 seconds)
I dunno...I see a hop up coming involving four turnbuckles to replace the fixed upper links (or links with different lengths). Then you could easily adjust caster and camber...
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I dunno...I see a hop up coming involving four turnbuckles to replace the fixed upper links (or links with different lengths). Then you could easily adjust caster and camber...
That would tweak on impact. Remember the old Trinity Revolver 12 front end?

Anyways, here's a little cleaner translation of just the F104 stuff:
The battery has been rotated 90 degrees and is now mounted lengthwise in the chassis.
The front suspension springs are now located under the lower suspension arm.
The lower chassis plate is made from 3.2mm carbon fiber and the upper plate is made from 2.0mm carbon fiber.
The T-bar is made from 1.5mm fiberglass.
The rear axle is also made from carbon fiber.
The TRF center shock absorber is anodized blue as are the aluminum differential halves.
The car is equipped with full ball bearings.
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when is the release date?
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I find it interesting how they are going o release a chassis in a "pro" form from the beginning. Its funny how when tamiya releases a car that we start speculating and R model. Besides the TRF models no F1 has had a carbon chassis and shiny blue bits straight off the bat... None the less still looking forward to throwing money at that one when it comes out
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when is the release date?
June / July
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