Me_MrTyson

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17.5 motors,

GM sounds good but nobody has them in stock..

Going to give a diffrent motor a go currently run SP v3 17.5

Thinking DUO or DUO 2?

Maybe Novak


What are other people using?

Alex

hacker

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GM motors are not roar legal, which are required where I race.

I've got a 13mm rotor on order which is allowed by our club rules, as well as a sp17.5v3, which is currently the motor to have at our track, so hopefully that will help with the braking issue.

MattW

Someone was asking about power profiles. I don't believe those are active if you have the "stock high speed" mode selected (reserved 4=1)

As for breaking, it took me a while to get used to it. However, i ended up with initial brakes set to 40, and it feels ok to me now.

One the older ESC's, changing the mode from within the software did copy a load of background settings. I'm not sure if that is still the case.

hacker

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Thanks, that makes sense now

I just realized the following are active when powercurve is set to 0.
- Timing 1 and Timing 2
- Timing according to special settings up to +30°
- Timing 1 up to max. Timing
- Timing 1 up to switching point rpm; Timing 2 up to max. Timing

it would be easier for the user if the timing selections above are 'ghosted' or not able to be selected IF powercurve is set above 0

Also, I think fixed timing is available all the time and not dependant on powercurve.

hacker

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I apologize if it seems I am busting everyone's balls here, but I want to get up to speed asap. And I know martin is busy atm so I wont expect any replies for a while. My query is regarding AS software 1.6.3 for gen2 esc's.
The quotations are taken from the help menu
I'm not understanding the statement above of 30° to 0...30°!

if I am using a motor in sensored mode, does that mean whatever the value in fixed timing is, it will always be reduced to 0?
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Timing: with sensors

There are 3 options for timing: with sensors
+0
+30
+max

The help is not the same as selections available.

and on top of that, it explanation is for sensorless motors, under timing: with sensors
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Change over speed
What is it?
I'm trying to figure out what this is, so I can understand how to set timing 1 and timing 2.

hacker

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The Power curves are only in function if Timing with Sensors is set to +30°.
But in modes 7,8 & 9, the selection for 'Timing with Sensors' is 0

mode 7, power curve 5
mode 8, power curve 8
mode 9, power curve 9

so basically if I'm selecting modes 7 through to 9, and dont change any setting at all, the timing with sensors = 0, then I'm not actually running that powercurve, but will it be downgraded to powercurve 0?

hana166

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Timing 1 and 2 are ramps (probably a bit more complicated than that). They relate mostly to the older versions. Higher numbers mean a steeper ramp. Use the checkboxes to decide which one or to use both

Switchpoint is when you go from timing 1 to timing 2 (using both) or if using timing 1 only it decides when that ramp comes in.

13.5 benefits from 2 stage timing, 10.5 is often better if using timing 1 only

Getting a perfect setting for your motor using these variables can be time consuming, gives excellent results but is quite technical

Fixed timing..if the sensor lead is plugged in it will use 0..30 or whatever you programmed it to, if you pull out the lead it will used the fixed timing value. Usually use 30.
If you use high speed timing it then becomes a different setting altogether for how much timing you want in that scenario

The variable dependent timing is intelligent timing, it gives the right amount at the right time depending on the situation, a number of variables. An intelligent speed controller. Just use the fixed timing slider to determine the amount of effect you want and use the telemetry to read motor temps. Doesn't get much easier! Use it in stock with the high speed timing. It takes the headache out of getting a good setting and will get you up speed quickly and easily

I'm sure Martin will correct me if I am wrong

Hope this helps

higbo

The value established in the "fixed timing" Does it affect when using sensors?

chris_blakey

Hi,

Has anyone got an electronic version of the manual, cant see to find one on the net?
Cheers

Chris

hacker

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you can download the manual from here, its for the pre 2010 version, some if not all of the downloads include an english version.
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=7164

higbo

This is manual is for 7164 (old esc) the new esc is 97164

hacker

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yes I did say it was for the pre 2010(before 2010) version.

Cannot find the 2010 manuals anywhere, so I at least supplied a link for the old ones

chris_blakey

exactly what i was after actually
many thanks!

rcardoso

Martin already received the #6554 motor as you adviced and the new gm 120.
What gearing you recommend for start and with what speedo mode or configuration ?
Remember itīs for a TC, asphalt.

Thank you!

Toblerone

Hi Martin,

I ran your 13.5 setup from the GM website and i have to say it was very fast, with great punch!

Geared at 5 on a low grip track, motor can temps 58 deg (which is probably still too cold!)

One thing i struggled with was traction as the track was very low grip, this was partly down to car setup.

If i wanted to reduce the punch slightly for very low grip tracks, whats the best way of doing this?

Thanks T

P.S - reflashing the firmware and doing a factory reset sorted the non starting issue so thanks for the help on that one!!