Originally Posted by 16skyline
I had the car running this weekend, it still doing 360 spins coming out of the corner.
From my original set up I have but harder springs(blue) on the front with softer ones on the back (yellow).
The back springs are set up as follows:
On the arms I have three holes I have set them in the middle one, one the top I have four holes I have put it on the third hole from the out side.
The front springs are as follows:
On the arms I have three holes also and they are in the same spot in the middle, on the top I also have four holes it is set at the first hole from the inside of the chassis.
The camber was 2 on the front and 1.5 on the rear, I changed it to 2 all a round.
On the front I have 2 degrees toe out I think ( at the front i have a 1B suspension mount and the standard one at the rear of the front)
On the rear I have toe in A suspension mount on the front of the rear and 1B on th rear of the rear.
I had a red sway bar on the front and a blue on the rear, took the blue off didn't make a difference.
I used a droop gauge and it is set at 6 on the front (was 4) and 4 on the rear (was 2).
Ride height was 5mm all round, tried 27 take offs and 28 sorex's.
I think that is all my settings can someone please HELP me as I am at a loss.
What ever I do it isn't stopping it from spinning.
P.S all the settings were set up on a station.
DROOP key factor on a car spinning out. 4-6 on droop gauge is very high, try 2-3 front, 1 rear or thereabouts (higher on front) this is what I call "more droop" meaning I allow suspension to work more when unloaded, ie. to travel up more when unloaded so the tires don't loose contact on the inside of the turn while the outside tires are getting more loaded. Also check droop again with car ready to go and tires on - pick up each end in the exact middle, until both tires are off the ground, make sure they free fall OK, check to see that both tires touch at roughly the same time, also check by pushing down on both sides to full travel - see if anything is binding
Try zero front toe. That much toe out really pulls the front end hard into the turns, making the rear swing hard.
Try standing up the front shocks more, try to loosen the front some.
You never mentioned what shock oil and pistons. Make sure there's still oil in the shocks, otherwise they bounce and you lose control somewhat unpredictably.
I always seem to get this backwards, so I hate to even mention it, but ... I think your front end shock mounting is soft (laid over vs. upright). You get more roll with the shocks laid over because for the same vertical shock travel you can roll farther... which puts more weight on the front wheels and you get more traction which switches balance to the front, so the rear end comes around more. Someone else may want to chime in as I hate to get this advice backwards.
I was considering suggesting removing all the sway bars (for sure remove the rear to start) but you said track is smooth. Still you may want to try this.
I looked back through your posts again and you said it's right hand turns. As someone earlier pointed out that heavily indicates tweak (lifting one of the right side tires, probably the right rear) allowing you to loose traction and spin out. I would do #0 (first thing) to check suspension travel on the rear of the car, with everything but body on, lift up in the very center of the rear shock tower and see if the right side wheel lifts off the table before the left. If that's the case it's likely to fix the prob if you fix your droop on that side.
Keep us informed, hopefully you get it nailed this week, it's frustrating to struggle with a car like this. But in the end you learn a lot, and next time it gets easier, and easier, and a lot more fun when you really start figuring it out.