BMI's DB12R
#7037
I found you can run faster when grip comes up with the thick plates over the thin. This was with the thick almost touching very little side to side, and the thin with set screw.
#7038
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
this is where im always confused with this car. our track is very high bite and im always faster with the thin plates with set screws just touching. i know this is what schreff runs all the time and at the birds. i mean yes theoretically the thick plates should be better on high bite but they are not. the thin plates allow the car to roll a little and seems to transition better. i have always found that the bmi behaves the exact opposite of most 1/12 scales but at the end of the day the car works and thats all that matters.
#7039
Tech Master
iTrader: (17)
this is where im always confused with this car. our track is very high bite and im always faster with the thin plates with set screws just touching. i know this is what schreff runs all the time and at the birds. i mean yes theoretically the thick plates should be better on high bite but they are not. the thin plates allow the car to roll a little and seems to transition better. i have always found that the bmi behaves the exact opposite of most 1/12 scales but at the end of the day the car works and thats all that matters.
#7040
I have run basically every setup possible, have had a lot of track time on high bite. We had a couple go to 360 for the negs, and we have more bite. We usually have about 14 heats every week. The thin plates do make the car roll a little more, and should make it easier to drive, this isnt always the fastest. I tried this setup on the world gt today and didnt like the car, rolled and snapped too much. Im sure I could have gotten it to work, but it just isnt me. The only thing I havent tried that I would like to as running rake in the flex plates. Some day.
#7041
Tech Champion
Good day for me in our local racing...finally got myself calmed down enough to drive relatively clean and netted me a 2nd place! Finally back on the podium
Jason check your e-mail when you get a chance...I'm going to send a correction to my order as one of my guys decided he wanted a little firmer tire.
Jason check your e-mail when you get a chance...I'm going to send a correction to my order as one of my guys decided he wanted a little firmer tire.
#7042
Tech Master
iTrader: (17)
I have run basically every setup possible, have had a lot of track time on high bite. We had a couple go to 360 for the negs, and we have more bite. We usually have about 14 heats every week. The thin plates do make the car roll a little more, and should make it easier to drive, this isnt always the fastest. I tried this setup on the world gt today and didnt like the car, rolled and snapped too much. Im sure I could have gotten it to work, but it just isnt me. The only thing I havent tried that I would like to as running rake in the flex plates. Some day.
To put it in terms you may understand normally if you even think about running w/o glueing the front you Traction roll like a mad man and I didn't run glue at that race.....
#7043
Tech Adept
I have used softer tires and they wear out even more. I think the edge gets worn out because the wheels don't angle enough on corners. More caster should angle them more in corners and prevent this...?
#7045
Tech Master
iTrader: (12)
Good day for me in our local racing...finally got myself calmed down enough to drive relatively clean and netted me a 2nd place! Finally back on the podium
Jason check your e-mail when you get a chance...I'm going to send a correction to my order as one of my guys decided he wanted a little firmer tire.
Jason check your e-mail when you get a chance...I'm going to send a correction to my order as one of my guys decided he wanted a little firmer tire.
#7047
Tech Adept
Front:
King pin lube 10000Wt
Springs 0.020" BMI
Camber 2.2 left 1.9 right
caster 4 deg.
toe 0 deg.
upper arm mount 10
up travel 5 mm
servo angled
front ride height 5.5 mm
front width 174 mm
Rear:
shock oil 30 wt.
shock springs gold 14 lb.
shock length 73.1 mm
rear pod droop 3.8 mm
forward shock ball stud long
flex plate : short and thin no screws
rear ride height adjusters 3 mm down
battery placement back
rear ride height 6.5 mm
rear width 176 mm
Damper Lube 20000 wt.
Tires:
30 shore pink rear 46 mm diameter (full treatment)
40 shore purple front 44 mm diameter (inside half treatment)
Batteries: 4600 matched SMC enerG
Motor: 4.5L novak 30.7 mm roll out
Body: Parma Speed 8 EXP
Thanks http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
#7048
Tech Lord
iTrader: (13)
here is my set-up:
Front:
King pin lube 10000Wt
Springs 0.020" BMI
Camber 2.2 left 1.9 right
caster 4 deg.
toe 0 deg.
upper arm mount 10
up travel 5 mm
servo angled
front ride height 5.5 mm
front width 174 mm
Rear:
shock oil 30 wt.
shock springs gold 14 lb.
shock length 73.1 mm
rear pod droop 3.8 mm
forward shock ball stud long
flex plate : short and thin no screws
rear ride height adjusters 3 mm down
battery placement back
rear ride height 6.5 mm
rear width 176 mm
Damper Lube 20000 wt.
Tires:
30 shore pink rear 46 mm diameter (full treatment)
40 shore purple front 44 mm diameter (inside half treatment)
Batteries: 4600 matched SMC enerG
Motor: 4.5L novak 30.7 mm roll out
Body: Parma Speed 8 EXP
Thanks http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
Front:
King pin lube 10000Wt
Springs 0.020" BMI
Camber 2.2 left 1.9 right
caster 4 deg.
toe 0 deg.
upper arm mount 10
up travel 5 mm
servo angled
front ride height 5.5 mm
front width 174 mm
Rear:
shock oil 30 wt.
shock springs gold 14 lb.
shock length 73.1 mm
rear pod droop 3.8 mm
forward shock ball stud long
flex plate : short and thin no screws
rear ride height adjusters 3 mm down
battery placement back
rear ride height 6.5 mm
rear width 176 mm
Damper Lube 20000 wt.
Tires:
30 shore pink rear 46 mm diameter (full treatment)
40 shore purple front 44 mm diameter (inside half treatment)
Batteries: 4600 matched SMC enerG
Motor: 4.5L novak 30.7 mm roll out
Body: Parma Speed 8 EXP
Thanks http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif
The front width seems to be very wide. I normally run mine at 164mm. I run 1.5-2 degrees of camber, and my ride height at 4mm w/ .25 mm uptravel.(front of the car for asphalt)
For the rear i run the track width at 172mm and if using the silva shock(bladder shock) I use 50 wt. oil w/ the gold spring(red if the bite is high). I run 1.5mm pod droop. I like the standard flex plates mounted in short position and no set screws because they eliminate the double steer though sweepers and keep the front tires from shaving down in fast corners. I run the rear ride height at 4mm. I like running pink rears and magenta fronts. I cut the rear to 1.800 and the fronts to 1.750.
Give this a try and let me know if the tire problem is resolved.
#7049
Tech Champion
#7050
Tech Adept
The front width seems to be very wide. I normally run mine at 164mm. I run 1.5-2 degrees of camber, and my ride height at 4mm w/ .25 mm uptravel.(front of the car for asphalt)
For the rear i run the track width at 172mm and if using the silva shock(bladder shock) I use 50 wt. oil w/ the gold spring(red if the bite is high). I run 1.5mm pod droop. I like the standard flex plates mounted in short position and no set screws because they eliminate the double steer though sweepers and keep the front tires from shaving down in fast corners. I run the rear ride height at 4mm. I like running pink rears and magenta fronts. I cut the rear to 1.800 and the fronts to 1.750.
Give this a try and let me know if the tire problem is resolved.
For the rear i run the track width at 172mm and if using the silva shock(bladder shock) I use 50 wt. oil w/ the gold spring(red if the bite is high). I run 1.5mm pod droop. I like the standard flex plates mounted in short position and no set screws because they eliminate the double steer though sweepers and keep the front tires from shaving down in fast corners. I run the rear ride height at 4mm. I like running pink rears and magenta fronts. I cut the rear to 1.800 and the fronts to 1.750.
Give this a try and let me know if the tire problem is resolved.
Thanks