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Old 02-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #6916
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Congrats to Team BMI. It is nice to see the cars did so well on carpet, now lets see it do just as well or if not better at a major asphalt race.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:26 PM   #6917
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I'll be running the 12RR at the ROAR Asphalt Nats later this year, until then, it's a lot of practice and testing in the schedule.

I have a feeling that with it's ability to dial in a lot of traction it should be a good time outdoors
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:13 AM   #6918
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Hi,
We in South Africa only race on Asphalt and the BMI has plenty traction. I been running it in Modified for about a year and recently upgraded to the RR, it is only improved the car more if you can believe that...
Also the easiest 1/12th I ever worked on, it never tweaks.

Hi, Jason, I been sending email to you, not sure if you got it...

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Old 02-03-2009, 03:17 AM   #6919
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Please send me your questions through PM. I have been having issues with my email. Or just send them to bmachine@tampabay.rr.com
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:45 AM   #6920
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It was great meeting you Jason, Matt loves the shirt and wishes he could placed a little higher for you and I wanna thank you for stopping by our pit and checking over his car, he said "it was great, he was a little off" Thankz again, Ken and Matt Miller........customers for life.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:12 AM   #6921
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It was nice getting to meet and hang out with you guys. You have one cool little kid buddy. A hell of a driver also. Im glad he liked his shirt. I look forward to seeing you guys again.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:50 PM   #6922
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I sent you a PM and same to the email.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:53 PM   #6923
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I just check and that email is bouncing back. But the PM should be OK.
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Old 02-03-2009, 03:36 PM   #6924
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Hey fellas!

What can I say. It was a heck of a week and a lot of hard work. After starting practice/qualifying off with stupid mistakes on my part regarding electronics and car setup, I was happy to finish 2nd behind a blazing fast Donny Lia. Donny has been basically unstoppable in 12th scale for the past year and it will continually be tough to keep up with him. With more work, I think we can catch him.

As for setup, here's what I ran...

-Front-
-Parma Magentas (cut to 1.62" and sidewall glued)
-10* caster blocks w/ 6* caster
-Associated .020 springs with about .020 spring sag when the car sat at race weight (#3 sure lube on kingpins)
-Lower arms were standard associated arms with .060 milled off bottom... no ride height spacers needed (these were arms I got from an oval racer at the race since I was tired of the IRS arms splitting)
- -1.5 camber and about .020 total toe out
-servo angled

-Rear-
-Parma Yellows (cut to 1.72" and bead glued)
-Rear width at 172mm
-Battery all the way back
-.065 Black side plates mounted in long position with tweak screws lightly touching chassis
-#3 sure lube in dampener tubes
-Hot Bodies center shock with 50wt oil and associated copper spring
-Shock mount all the way back in car (shortest position) 2mm spacers under shock mount and medium ball stud on shock mount.
-1mm pod droop

Body was a Parma Speed 8 HD lightweight.

The car was very neutral throughout racing. It didn't try to do anything dumb and was very easy to drive. There was more speed left in the car, I just ran out of time to try more things. Needless to say, the DB12RR is the real deal and it will only get better with more testing/racing.

If I missed any setup items that anyone is looking for, just let me know. I left gearing info out as it's kind of only pertinent to the size track at the Birds anyway.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:17 PM   #6925
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Hey fellas!

What can I say. It was a heck of a week and a lot of hard work. After starting practice/qualifying off with stupid mistakes on my part regarding electronics and car setup, I was happy to finish 2nd behind a blazing fast Donny Lia. Donny has been basically unstoppable in 12th scale for the past year and it will continually be tough to keep up with him. With more work, I think we can catch him.

As for setup, here's what I ran...

-Front-
-Parma Magentas (cut to 1.62" and sidewall glued)
-10* caster blocks w/ 6* caster
-Associated .020 springs with about .020 spring sag when the car sat at race weight (#3 sure lube on kingpins)
-Lower arms were standard associated arms with .060 milled off bottom... no ride height spacers needed (these were arms I got from an oval racer at the race since I was tired of the IRS arms splitting)
- -1.5 camber and about .020 total toe out
-servo angled

-Rear-
-Parma Yellows (cut to 1.72" and bead glued)
-Rear width at 172mm
-Battery all the way back
-.065 Black side plates mounted in long position with tweak screws lightly touching chassis
-#3 sure lube in dampener tubes
-Hot Bodies center shock with 50wt oil and associated copper spring
-Shock mount all the way back in car (shortest position) 2mm spacers under shock mount and medium ball stud on shock mount.
-1mm pod droop

Body was a Parma Speed 8 HD lightweight.

The car was very neutral throughout racing. It didn't try to do anything dumb and was very easy to drive. There was more speed left in the car, I just ran out of time to try more things. Needless to say, the DB12RR is the real deal and it will only get better with more testing/racing.

If I missed any setup items that anyone is looking for, just let me know. I left gearing info out as it's kind of only pertinent to the size track at the Birds anyway.
congrats schreff. lap times were there now i have to cahange my whole car again cause every time i run your setup at 360 i go faster
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:26 PM   #6926
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hey jason i saw some pics of some 1/12 at the birds with the new associated front end. is this something you might consider
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:41 PM   #6927
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I was going to but when assembling the front end i realized it has some serious caster issues. I decided to let it go for now.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:06 PM   #6928
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I was going to but when assembling the front end i realized it has some serious caster issues. I decided to let it go for now.
nuff said
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:05 PM   #6929
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Hey fellas!

What can I say. It was a heck of a week and a lot of hard work. After starting practice/qualifying off with stupid mistakes on my part regarding electronics and car setup, I was happy to finish 2nd behind a blazing fast Donny Lia. Donny has been basically unstoppable in 12th scale for the past year and it will continually be tough to keep up with him. With more work, I think we can catch him.

As for setup, here's what I ran...

-Front-
-Parma Magentas (cut to 1.62" and sidewall glued)
-10* caster blocks w/ 6* caster
-Associated .020 springs with about .020 spring sag when the car sat at race weight (#3 sure lube on kingpins)
-Lower arms were standard associated arms with .060 milled off bottom... no ride height spacers needed (these were arms I got from an oval racer at the race since I was tired of the IRS arms splitting)
- -1.5 camber and about .020 total toe out
-servo angled

-Rear-
-Parma Yellows (cut to 1.72" and bead glued)
-Rear width at 172mm
-Battery all the way back
-.065 Black side plates mounted in long position with tweak screws lightly touching chassis
-#3 sure lube in dampener tubes
-Hot Bodies center shock with 50wt oil and associated copper spring
-Shock mount all the way back in car (shortest position) 2mm spacers under shock mount and medium ball stud on shock mount.
-1mm pod droop

Body was a Parma Speed 8 HD lightweight.

The car was very neutral throughout racing. It didn't try to do anything dumb and was very easy to drive. There was more speed left in the car, I just ran out of time to try more things. Needless to say, the DB12RR is the real deal and it will only get better with more testing/racing.

If I missed any setup items that anyone is looking for, just let me know. I left gearing info out as it's kind of only pertinent to the size track at the Birds anyway.

You the man as always Jason!
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:29 PM   #6930
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-#3 sure lube in dampener tubes

What wt is this...I'm thinking around 10000???
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