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Old 01-12-2009, 12:35 PM
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Oh and here is the updated setup that I ran yesterday. I did need more negative camber for some of the higher speed sweepers we have, but that was about the only real change I made.
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Please optimal gear ratio for the modified motor for 3.7. And what the motor used in modified?
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Originally Posted by protc3
I am about to do some lipo testing with the 3.7 lipo. I am going to try this setup


Front

5 degree blocks with 4 degree castor
.020 front spring w/ #3 on the kingpins
angled servo
2x pink fronts cut to 1.700 1/2 inside sauce
2 degrees camber
0 toe
3.5mm ride height
.25mm droop

Rear
lipo back as far as possible
Thin flex plates in long position w/ set screw installed but not touching chassis
#3 in the tubes
Gold spring w/ 50 wt. oil in the silva shock
Tall ballstud on shock mount
2 x pink rear tire cut to 1.800
1mm pod droop
3.5mm ride height
pod level

I will see how this runs and let you know.
Any reason you are going with the angled servo and not flat for the LiPo testing?

Cant wait to hear how it works!
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:40 PM
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I always start with the angled mounts for the most aggressive feel. I will tone it down if i need to.
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anyone had problems with the motor moving forwards in a shunt ?

I've had this a couple of times now and I can't work out what it is.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chris_dono
anyone had problems with the motor moving forwards in a shunt ?

I've had this a couple of times now and I can't work out what it is.
I think I did in one of the qualifiers yesterday. mid way through the race I started hearing a bit of grind and pulled it in.. the motor still had mesh but not much and started taking the tops off the spur teeth. So I jammed it back together and all was good

I normally run my mesh a bit lose and that could have caused the teeth on the spur to wear and start to break a bit.
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the spur was new that day and it's not damaged from what i can see

the motor has moved enough along the pod plate that the pinion is no longer in contact with the spur
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by protc3
I am about to do some lipo testing with the 3.7 lipo. I am going to try this setup


Front

5 degree blocks with 4 degree castor
.020 front spring w/ #3 on the kingpins
angled servo
2x pink fronts cut to 1.700 1/2 inside sauce
2 degrees camber
0 toe
3.5mm ride height
.25mm droop

Rear
lipo back as far as possible
Thin flex plates in long position w/ set screw installed but not touching chassis
#3 in the tubes
Gold spring w/ 50 wt. oil in the silva shock
Tall ballstud on shock mount
2 x pink rear tire cut to 1.800
1mm pod droop
3.5mm ride height
pod level

I will see how this runs and let you know.

Are you doing this test on asphalt or carpet Jason?


Originally Posted by chris_dono
the spur was new that day and it's not damaged from what i can see

the motor has moved enough along the pod plate that the pinion is no longer in contact with the spur
If your motor has moved that much you must have hit a board/object square and hard or the motor screws are way loose. Another cause could be if your using a washer for the motor screws thats not metal. I used to use a plastic shim and it would slide if I hit something hard.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chris_dono
anyone had problems with the motor moving forwards in a shunt ?

I've had this a couple of times now and I can't work out what it is.
This is caused from vibration from the motor. You can run a slight amount of blue locktight on the threads for the motor screws.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:28 PM
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in the year I've been running my DB12R I've only had that happen to me once. I just didn't have the screws tight enough.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chris moore
If your motor has moved that much you must have hit a board/object square and hard or the motor screws are way loose. Another cause could be if your using a washer for the motor screws thats not metal. I used to use a plastic shim and it would slide if I hit something hard.
That's what I thought, but they aren't loose at all. When i set the mesh up on the pinion I put one tooth higher and have it as close to the spur as it will go, then crank the motor screws tight.

I then change down 1 tooth on the pinion for a good mesh without moving the motor.

It's moved along the podplate without loosening the screws :S
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:33 PM
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Hmm, That doesnt sound right. If you like, You can send the car to me and i will get it squared away. I can send it back the same day it gets here. It shouldnt take long.
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Originally Posted by protc3
Hmm, That doesnt sound right. If you like, You can send the car to me and i will get it squared away. I can send it back the same day it gets here. It shouldnt take long.
I'm 95% sure it's me not the car Jason, but thanks for the offer. I'm racing a national this weekend otherwise I'd send it

I'm going to try a new set of pod plates this weekend and a different motor. I'm currently using cap head M3x6mm screws (2mm hex) to hold it in place, perhaps I should try a slightly longer screw and a washer to grip the podplate ?

Didn't see about loctite, will try that first
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:07 PM
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Jason, (or anyone for that matter) can you please explain what changing the front droop does for the cars handling.
ie; changing from 3 shims to 2 shims above the upper pivot ball.

Is there an optimum difference in tire dia from front to rear? Perhaps a ratio you can use like the rear tires are for example should be 1.05 times bigger than the fronts.
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:22 PM
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Just completed the build 2 hours 40 mins and another 2 hours kit it out.What do you think guys.

BMI 12RR If it goes as well as it looks watch out.
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