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Old 03-02-2008, 08:14 PM   #4246
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Cool. I should have the new spring done shortly. I will be making them in .018,.020 and .022. I ran the .020 today. We ran 19 turn,the bite was high and the track was sweeping. The car has not one scratch on the bottom. It just never touched down.
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Im not going to make it.
Bummer, I was hoping to finally meet the almghty Jason, the creator of the elusive DB12R.
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Bummer, I was hoping to finally meet the almghty Jason, the creator of the elusive DB12R.
He's nothing to write home about........LOL J/K He's a hell of a guy
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Cool. I should have the new spring done shortly. I will be making them in .018,.020 and .022. I ran the .020 today. We ran 19 turn,the bite was high and the track was sweeping. The car has not one scratch on the bottom. It just never touched down.
Jason - I'll take three (or more - lots of db12r at 360) sets of all of your spring flavors. how/when can we get our hands on them? if was act now can we have them at the track this upcoming weekend?
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Jason - I'll take three (or more - lots of db12r at 360) sets of all of your spring flavors. how/when can we get our hands on them? if was act now can we have them at the track this upcoming weekend?
put me down for the same.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:26 AM   #4251
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:08 AM   #4252
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I gotta say I'm loving my DB12 more and more every time I run it I'm running a copper center spring, 7000wt in the tubes, 5000 on the kingpins, batteries in the middle, flat servo, and a Jaco Lilac/yellow tire combo. This is for a 17.5 motor. If anyone is coming to the carpet nats make sure to look me up, I practically live there
Matt - How do you have your electronics laid out in you car? I finished building mine this weekend but with the speedo on the left the car is way out of balance. I am going to switch it to the right side tonight.


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Old 03-03-2008, 08:11 AM   #4253
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Matt - How do you have your electronics laid out in you car? I finished building mine this weekend but with the speedo on the left the car is way out of balance. I am going to switch it to the right side tonight.


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I have it on the left but I'm using 16g wire, I also routed the big esc cap to the right side, so it's next to the receiver. I also removed the heatsink and fan from my Losi esc to take off some more weight
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:49 AM   #4254
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Jason I just placed an order. If springs are good to go add one set of each new spring set.
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:41 PM   #4255
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What makes the springs different from standard springs we use on the AE front end? Are they progressive?
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:14 PM   #4256
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The springs will be ready at the end of the month. In order to make them so i can do them cheap, i need to do a large volume of them.


The front springs are much more linear than the AE springs. The front ends on these cars are extremely light and the progressive front AE springs do not allow the front end to roll. This makes the rear do all of the rolling which makes it harder for the car to stay flat. These new springs open a huge window for setup on these cars.

The other downfall of the stock AE springs is what you all know already, They collapse because the wire is under too much stress. The small diameter,coarse pitch spring breaks down the spring wire extremely fast making the front spring life extremely short. With my new spring kit, You may only have to replace them once a year if you use them alot.

I will be selling them as a kit. I made a mistake on wire size before. I used .022 for my testing this weekend. I will be making .020,.022,and .024 sized springs. The .018 with my new design becomes too soft.

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Old 03-03-2008, 05:05 PM   #4257
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"He ran .070" standard flex plates and no set screws in the flex plates."

Ok thanks. Reading back it sounds like the .70 flex plate offers more grip on asphalt?? If so then the thiner .60+ flex plate w/adj screw is a carpet solution? Or is just what ever works on any surface?
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:22 PM   #4258
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The set screws in the thin flex plates make the car soft off center but the spring tension ramps up and makes the car dig harder mid corner. It seems to work well on carpet. On asphalt we like the standard plates with a more linear spring rate so we leave the set screws out. It gives good rear bit and front bite balance.
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:25 PM   #4259
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Jason as always good information thanks!
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:26 PM   #4260
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Not a problem buddy.
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