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Old 12-04-2007, 02:38 PM   #3196
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With a novak i gear it at 88/35 with a 1.75 rear tire. 33 with the orion would be right if i am correct on running 2 teeth less.
sweet, cars donego around it again make sure everythings plush, i might head out tomorrow for some testing thanx for all your help, i put this side by side to my l4 and it seems you definatlly did your homework car looks extremly streamline i cant wait to rip her!
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:05 PM   #3197
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btw anyone have a part# for the long ballstuds when servo laid down as im having a hard time loc ating these guys
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:47 PM   #3198
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btw anyone have a part# for the long ballstuds when servo laid down as im having a hard time loc ating these guys
Here is the Part # straight off of the IRS site IRS356
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:45 PM   #3199
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Here is the Part # straight off of the IRS site IRS356
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:21 AM   #3200
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I,m going to poach a little here.

Who has a ceramic bearing kit for a ck 3.1 ?
What are the shortcomings of going ceramic?

Ahhh db12 is the best.
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Old 12-05-2007, 02:43 PM   #3201
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Ceramic bearings are great. The downfall is when they go bad they are more expensive. They do last longer if you take care of them. Dont put a ceramic in the rear hub for the diff. They will shatter just as easy as a regular bearing but they cost more. Just do the front wheels and 2 axle bearings in the pod
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:05 PM   #3202
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Ceramic bearings are great. The downfall is when they go bad they are more expensive. They do last longer if you take care of them. Dont put a ceramic in the rear hub for the diff. They will shatter just as easy as a regular bearing but they cost more. Just do the front wheels and 2 axle bearings in the pod
Thank you sir.
What is interesting is that I originally thought of going ceramic throughout the kit because Someone had suggested replacing the diff bearings with ceramics to improve diff performance instead of the slapmaster kit.

That someone was Frank Calandra at the iic in vegas.
The durability issue is definately a concern for me though and I tend to agree with you on that.
What is your opinion on the slapmaster thrust replacement.?
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You sure that he wasn't talking about ceramic diff balls rather than hub bearing?
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:30 PM   #3204
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Thank you sir.
What is interesting is that I originally thought of going ceramic throughout the kit because Someone had suggested replacing the diff bearings with ceramics to improve diff performance instead of the slapmaster kit.

That someone was Frank Calandra at the iic in vegas.
The durability issue is definately a concern for me though and I tend to agree with you on that.
What is your opinion on the slapmaster thrust replacement.?
The slapmaster thrust bearing is a nice option. When i am at a big race i run just a flanged bearing. I do this because there is less resistance being that the force is being placed on the inner ring and not on the balls themselves and i feel it makes the car rotate better. With a thrust bearing, the washers sandwich the thrust balls and this creates drag. This is more rolling resistance in the diff action. The more free the car is the better it rotates. The more resistance your diff has the less free the rotation of the car is and the car pushes more than usual. For club racing, the thrust bearing is great. I dont need to worry about the diff getting nasty on me. It stays together alot better. Thrust bearings are designed to take extreme side load where standard ball bearings are not. If you dont hit much you will get alot of time out of a standard bearing in the hub. If you have your share of crashes and just want trouble free racing, get the thrust bearing
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:33 PM   #3205
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Ceramic diff balls are nice. They are a pain to get the diff right if your not careful. You need to cut the rings in extra long with ceramic diff balls being that they are so smoothe and the surface is very hard. They have a hard time gripping on the rings to keep it from slipping. When they are done right they are sweet.
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If your racing outdoors though the Slapmaster thrust bearing is definately the way to go. That outside hub bearing gets dirty fast outdoors and in 1 run you have a crunchy diff. The thrust bearing works best for this application. Indoors where it is clean and if you don't hit stuff then the bearing will last a lot longer and the thrust bearing is not needed.
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If your racing outdoors though the Slapmaster thrust bearing is definately the way to go. That outside hub bearing gets dirty fast outdoors and in 1 run you have a crunchy diff. The thrust bearing works best for this application. Indoors where it is clean and if you don't hit stuff then the bearing will last a lot longer and the thrust bearing is not needed.
I dont know about that. We race outdoors in Florida all year long. I replace my diff thrust bearing every 6 to 8 months. I just use normal BMI Kit bearings. I never clean that bearing either. I just saturate it with oil when I put it in and forget about it.
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Our tracks are all outdoor parking lot so the cars can get dirty and blow out that bearing in as little as 1 run. At best they are allready gritty beyond a simple cleaning by the end of 1 race day.
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Old 12-05-2007, 06:36 PM   #3209
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i know its somewhere on here i cut 12mm off shock shaft end and want a total of what?for complete shock thanx
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Old 12-05-2007, 06:39 PM   #3210
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67 is what im comin up with
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