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Old 10-20-2007, 08:56 AM   #2341
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If you are running 19 turn brian, PW's setup was really good at minnreg. The bite was medium. We went to .018 front springs and ran magenta tires front and rear. 5000 wt. in the tubes with the gold spring and 35 wt. oil. 3.5mm ride height all around with the pod sitting level. 10 degree castor blocks with castor at 4 degrees(shims centered). 172mm rear width and 164mm front. batteries to the back and we sauced full rear 1/2 the inside front. We removed most of the front uptravel by adding an extra kingpin shim up top. We went with a speed 12 body and the rearward body mount holes. He lapped the field and hit his fastest lap about 7 minutes in.
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:20 AM   #2342
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How many of you guys are going to cleveland next month. Just seeing who is going to be their so I can meet some new faces and work on getting this car dialed. I will be at the Gate friday saturday and sunday before the race working on the car so let me know
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:41 PM   #2343
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I know Chris Doseck will be there and i think Craig Xavier will be also.
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:06 PM   #2344
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How many of you guys are going to cleveland next month. Just seeing who is going to be their so I can meet some new faces and work on getting this car dialed. I will be at the Gate friday saturday and sunday before the race working on the car so let me know
Take a little road trip & come over to the Toledo track so we can get the car dialed in
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:06 PM   #2345
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Just got my Type R ready for minnreg. Now i need to finish setting up my stock DB12R and i am ready to go. A little early but i dont like to wait until the last minute. I think this will be the most cars i ran at a track in 1 day. Should make for some interesting results.
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:25 PM   #2346
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I want some...ride height adjusters for bigger bearings.
ditto...

that would be very nice...
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:45 PM   #2347
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Hey Jason,

I'll for sure order large bearing holders from you when available.......Slapmaster and I are friends but aparently not great friends because whenever I ask him to make some for me he just laughs and changes the subject


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Just got my Type R ready for minnreg. Now i need to finish setting up my stock DB12R and i am ready to go. A little early but i dont like to wait until the last minute. I think this will be the most cars i ran at a track in 1 day. Should make for some interesting results.
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:38 PM   #2349
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I have looked into it a little and it looks like we will need to make new pods in order to run small tires with 1/2 inch bearings. I have the 3.5 adjusters in my car now and it is real close to the edge of the adjuster. I will need to make them with pods to accomodate them. 1/2 inch bearings are rated for alot more load so i dont think they will ever have any problems.
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:44 PM   #2350
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Hey Slapmaster6000,

Can you post you whole setup and what tires and traction compound are you using? we can be able to help you more that way.:-)









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Jason, will do. I think that Brad has you on speed dial. In the meantime, all cars seem to be fast for 3-6 minutes depending on tire combo and then go into push mode, adding about 1.5 seconds per lap or loosing all forward bite. Door open in just over an hour which should only have about an hour & half of practice. Can you say: Power Test?
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Hey Jason ygpm bro, question for ya
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:36 AM   #2352
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I just got back from racing tonight. I got owned again. Haha... My car wasn't edgy enuff and lacked a bit of grunt. Finished 6th overall I was running the base setup on stock. Any suggestions?
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:16 AM   #2353
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Can you be a little more specific as for what you are looking to get? It sounds to me like you are wanting some more steering, correct?
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:55 AM   #2354
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I feel like I have just enough steering but its as if I am rubbing too much speed into the corner (sweeper) even though I am on full throttle. I find them able to catch up with me in such instances. I am really not sure. I am driving my hardest and when I usually drive like this I will not lose out by so much per lap. The thing is the car feels so easy to drive and it makes me confused as to where I am losing speed. I am really a 1/12 noob and thus am not able to tell anything.

I know my lines are the correct lines and am hugging the corners as tight as the front runner, on similar motors and batteries but they are on Gen x and i am the only one running db12r so none of them is able to offer advice as to what to do.

I know my post sounds really confusing
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What tire combo are you running? Indoor/Outdoor? Carpet/Asphalt?

Prism Lilac Fronts and Yellow Rears on a medium/low bite indoor carpet track have been working at my track quite well.

My first thought would be to:
Dial out some dual rate. My guess is that you're throwing the steering over to full lock on entry and that's where all the speed is getting dumped.

If it feels like you have just enough steering, you probably don't have enough.
If you're driving hard, you're probably overdriving. (I'm quite guilty of this and find my best laps to be when I'm relaxed.)

Make sure ride height is level and that body is not mounted with a rake.
Move the batteries forward to the middle of the battery slots.
Try out a high downforce body.
Try the next lighter front spring.
Check for the front tires coning and increase negative camber by .25 degrees until it's corrected.

All of these changes should improve steering incrementally.

Then reset everything to original and repeat with the next softer front tire.
Then reset everything to original and repeat with the servo mounted flat.

As far as grunt, the car has no problem at all getting the power to the ground. You may want to drop a couple of teeth from the pinion to give up top end but to gain punch and control until you get the setup sorted out. Once that's done, gear it to the moon.

I've been working through 12th scale noob status as well, and these changes are what I've done. I've picked up nearly 3 laps overall just through consistency and increasing corner speed.

Experts please chime in if I'm giving improper guidance!

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