Wich one to choose, Brushless
03-29-2007, 09:44 AM
#16
Originally Posted by Nuno Gancho
Hello, so with many brushlles motor and speed control ( the fastes one, 3,5 T)in the market wich one will you guy´s choose:
-LRP sphere
- Nosram
- Noval GTB
- tekin
- GM
- Trinity
- Orion
- Mamba
- Mtronicks
Is there anyone that i can use in rain races.
-LRP sphere
- Nosram
- Noval GTB
- tekin
- GM
- Trinity
- Orion
- Mamba
- Mtronicks
Is there anyone that i can use in rain races.
03-29-2007, 10:14 AM
#17
Hello, why do you prefer the 4,5T with the sintered rotor?
The novak, when you make any set up you are changing in the 5 program?
How do we know what is the set up in the other programs?
Is there any speacial treatment that i should do to the brushless.
And about the set up, is using drag break very hard to the motor?
Wich is the parameter that alterate the punch, frequence or minimun drive?
The novak, when you make any set up you are changing in the 5 program?
How do we know what is the set up in the other programs?
Is there any speacial treatment that i should do to the brushless.
And about the set up, is using drag break very hard to the motor?
Wich is the parameter that alterate the punch, frequence or minimun drive?
03-29-2007, 10:20 AM
#18
I'm think wait moment to see Tekin new series ESC ,
because is sensorless ESC can support sensored brushless motor ( NOVAR 3.5R , LRP X11 , GM ... )
but Mamba Max same have tested , need use notebook setup !
coming have software use in PDA to setup !
because is sensorless ESC can support sensored brushless motor ( NOVAR 3.5R , LRP X11 , GM ... )
but Mamba Max same have tested , need use notebook setup !
coming have software use in PDA to setup !
03-29-2007, 07:54 PM
#19
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by Eirik
Personally, I would go for the New LRP/Nosram ISTC Speedo with the Orion Vortex motor 
The speedo is very easy to set up and has a great feel...!
The new orion motors are the fastest brushless I have tried so far and they run really cool, thanks to the internal fan!
Also, they almost feels like an brushed motor, very nice and smooth power band
The speedo is very easy to set up and has a great feel...!
The new orion motors are the fastest brushless I have tried so far and they run really cool, thanks to the internal fan!
Also, they almost feels like an brushed motor, very nice and smooth power band
03-30-2007, 12:39 AM
#20
so sensorless ESC have Tekin , GM & Mamba & can use sensored motor !
GM Genius95 use PC to setup bester & outdoor easy cutoff !
GM Genius95 use PC to setup bester & outdoor easy cutoff !
03-30-2007, 05:26 AM
#21
Originally Posted by Spoook
Have you tried those Orions motors with a sensorless ESC like the mamba max? I am considering purchasing a Tekin or Orion 10.5 brushless. I just need one that runs good on a sensorless ESC.
Got a litle less rpm and more torque without sensors, geared one tooth higher, driving feel was pretty much the same.
The Vortex should work really good with the Mamba or any other high performance sensorless speedos!
This motor har super smooth feel from the bottom and up!!
03-30-2007, 05:53 AM
#22
I agree with Eirik ragarding the Nosram/LRP ISTC and Orion Votex motor being a very good combination.
The speedo is very easy to adjust and Ive had no thermaling problems whatsover. Infact Ive not even come close to thermaling it, you can check how close you got to the thermal cut after a run.
The motor is very well built and stays much cooler than any other motor I have tried. It is also unbelievabley quick. As others have suggested I would not recommend running a 3.5 on a small track, it has far too much power. Id got for a 4.5-5.5.
The speedo is very easy to adjust and Ive had no thermaling problems whatsover. Infact Ive not even come close to thermaling it, you can check how close you got to the thermal cut after a run.
The motor is very well built and stays much cooler than any other motor I have tried. It is also unbelievabley quick. As others have suggested I would not recommend running a 3.5 on a small track, it has far too much power. Id got for a 4.5-5.5.
03-30-2007, 06:47 AM
#23
Originally Posted by Nuno Gancho
Hello, why do you prefer the 4,5T with the sintered rotor?
The novak, when you make any set up you are changing in the 5 program?
How do we know what is the set up in the other programs?
Is there any speacial treatment that i should do to the brushless.
And about the set up, is using drag break very hard to the motor?
Wich is the parameter that alterate the punch, frequence or minimun drive?
The novak, when you make any set up you are changing in the 5 program?
How do we know what is the set up in the other programs?
Is there any speacial treatment that i should do to the brushless.
And about the set up, is using drag break very hard to the motor?
Wich is the parameter that alterate the punch, frequence or minimun drive?
03-30-2007, 07:17 AM
#25
I use the Novak GTB it comes with a water resistant case. From mod 3.5 down to stock 13.5 they offer every speed you can ask for, it comes with a run capacitor and fan. And has all the custom profiles you can ask for. (no computer needed to program it), Serious plug and race or play. And the best tech support to my experience. I would seriously check out the GTB or the new XBR.
03-30-2007, 07:24 AM
#26
Stay away from the lrp...reedy stuff.
My stuff lasted 4 mins and blew up. Then it was two and a half months to get the speedo replaced and three and a half months and i'm still waiting for a replacement motor.
Go with somebody with good service....not LRP...REEDY
My stuff lasted 4 mins and blew up. Then it was two and a half months to get the speedo replaced and three and a half months and i'm still waiting for a replacement motor.
Go with somebody with good service....not LRP...REEDY
03-30-2007, 09:16 AM
#27
I have ran the LRP. Its sitting in the pit box needing to go back. Dang thing just started shuttering. 
Only on the bottom end.
Went to the GTB and havent bothered to send it back. That was a year ago.
The GTB has a smoother throttle response Vs. the LRP.
From bottom end to top end the smooth ripp is nice, especially with the mod motors.
The other day I ran the 4.5 and the bottom end and the mid range was so smooth.
The smooth throttle response is great on medium sized tracks, and off road where traction would be a concern.
Only on the bottom end. Went to the GTB and havent bothered to send it back. That was a year ago.
The GTB has a smoother throttle response Vs. the LRP.
From bottom end to top end the smooth ripp is nice, especially with the mod motors.
The other day I ran the 4.5 and the bottom end and the mid range was so smooth.
The smooth throttle response is great on medium sized tracks, and off road where traction would be a concern.
03-31-2007, 09:17 AM
#28
I Think Mtroniks is the best for me, becouse the mtroniks ESC is
Fully programmable battery selection, motor timing, acceleration, brakes and reverse, reverse disable, Waterproof ESC
Instant acceleration from a standing start by using Mtroniks Ltd. optimised motor preperation
A 'return to base' software upgrade facility
Li-Po battery support for 2 to 4 cells
4 to 8 cells NiCAD or NiMH
Automatic sensing of number of cells when using NiCAD or NiMH batteries
Current limit cut-off
3A Hyper BEC
3 Internal Schottky diodes
Auto cut-off computer
Dimensions:-52mmx35mmx15mm
Weight:-54g
COMPLETELY SENSORLESS
Low cost NOT cheap!
Now, i have using that Mtroniks ESC AND the Mtroniks Brushless motor around 10 turn, but i can VS with the novak 3.5R.......In the End i win...becouse the novak no torque and The Mtroniks very high tuorque until u unbelievedeble...now i using 3:1 gear ratio with lipo batt. cheaper then novak !...Lipo light weight then nimh batt....lipo high volt and high current and super light weigh.....
Fully programmable battery selection, motor timing, acceleration, brakes and reverse, reverse disable, Waterproof ESC
Instant acceleration from a standing start by using Mtroniks Ltd. optimised motor preperation
A 'return to base' software upgrade facility
Li-Po battery support for 2 to 4 cells
4 to 8 cells NiCAD or NiMH
Automatic sensing of number of cells when using NiCAD or NiMH batteries
Current limit cut-off
3A Hyper BEC
3 Internal Schottky diodes
Auto cut-off computer
Dimensions:-52mmx35mmx15mm
Weight:-54g
COMPLETELY SENSORLESS
Low cost NOT cheap!
Now, i have using that Mtroniks ESC AND the Mtroniks Brushless motor around 10 turn, but i can VS with the novak 3.5R.......In the End i win...becouse the novak no torque and The Mtroniks very high tuorque until u unbelievedeble...now i using 3:1 gear ratio with lipo batt. cheaper then novak !...Lipo light weight then nimh batt....lipo high volt and high current and super light weigh.....
03-31-2007, 09:30 AM
#29
It's really FORD VS CHEVY VS DODGE with these things performance wise.....99% of the drivers are not going to be able to tell the difference between them....
So, the next thing you need to take into account is legality and customer service....
With those two things in mine, the Novak is the best controller to get. You get outstanding customer service, along with live tech support.......Novak doesn't mess around when taking care of customers, even when it's user error. They have a generous warranty and replacement program.
As for motors.....the Novak, for the same reason above.....plus its legal....along with the new Orion/Peak motors when they become available.....
I would stick to that, so you can actually race it and get it fixed if it breaks....
Later EddieO
So, the next thing you need to take into account is legality and customer service....
With those two things in mine, the Novak is the best controller to get. You get outstanding customer service, along with live tech support.......Novak doesn't mess around when taking care of customers, even when it's user error. They have a generous warranty and replacement program.
As for motors.....the Novak, for the same reason above.....plus its legal....along with the new Orion/Peak motors when they become available.....
I would stick to that, so you can actually race it and get it fixed if it breaks....
Later EddieO
