CE Turbo Dyno 45 Numbers
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Originally Posted by ovalnator
Just picked up a CE Turbo Dyno 45....just looking to find out what I should be looking for numbers wise for the following motors:
Monster Stock
CO27
X-Stock
Any insight is appreciated.
Monster Stock
CO27
X-Stock
Any insight is appreciated.
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From the late great Big Jim Greenemeyer
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Competition Electronics TURBODYNO 45 Settings
These are the settings I use. Although these certainly aren't the only ones to use, it does establish a baseline to start with. But I caution you on this. NEVER COMPARE DYNOS! They are all different. Mine may not be the same as yours. But it's not important. As long as you use your dyno and you can improve your motors with it, the number values don't have to compare with anyone else. And they probably won't. Use these settings and numbers as a guide only. Your numbers maybe be better or worse.
VOLTAGE SETTINGS
FOR 6 CELL TESTING ON SPEC (27t, 21t, 19t) MOTORS: 7.0V
FOR 4 CELL TESTING ON SPEC (27t, 21t, 19t) MOTORS: 5.0V
FOR 6 CELL TESTING OF MODIFIED MOTORS 11 TURNS OR MORE: 6.5V
FOR 6 CELL TESTING OF MODIFIED MOTORS 10 TURNS OR LESS: 5.0V
FOR 4 CELL TESTING OF MODIFIED MOTORS, ALL WINDS: 5.0V
In case you are wondering why I test low wind mods on 5.0V even if they're going to be run on 6 cells is because those type of winds spin so hard that it's very destructive to the slave motor on the dyno. With extreme low winds, a 5.0V setting will still tell you all you need to know accurately.
I should mention also that I'm not going to post all the readings from all 6 settings in my examples. You may not need to use all 6 and it will save space and get you the necessary info.
AMP LOADS
ALL SPEC MOTORS (27t, 21t, 19t) 4 OR 6 CELL USE (Except Oval):
15A, 18A, 20A, 22A, 25A, 28A
*Most Important for 6 cell: 20A and 28A
4 CELL OVAL:
15A, 18A, 20A, 22A, 25A, 0.0A
*Most Important for 4 cell: 20A and 25A
MODIFIED MOTORS: 11 TURNS OR MORE: 4 or 6 cell
20A, 25A, 30A, 35A, 40A, 0.0A
*Most Important 30A and 40A
MODIFIED MOTORS 1O TURNS OR LESS: 4 or 6 cell
25A, 35A, 45A, O.O, O.O, O.O
*Most Important: ALL
EXAMPLES:
My Best P2K2 @ 7.0V:
20366rpm 6.8TQ 103W 74EF @20A
17270rpm 10.1TQ 129W 66EF @28A
My Best GM3 @ 7.0V:
23474rpm 6.0TQ 102W 72EF @20A
19550rpm 8.8TQ 128W 65EF @28A
My Best MVP @ 7.0V:
19874rpm 6.9TQ 102W 72EF @20A
16659rpm 10.0TQ 124W 63EF @28A
*Note: MVP Watt numbers can be slightly lower than Epic motors and still run comparably. This is because of the supereior magnets, my best guess.
My Best Chameleon @ 5.0V:
18708rpm 5.5TQ 77W 77EF @20A
16632rpm 8.9TQ 109W 78EF @28A
My Best Street Spec (21t) @ 7.0V
17964rpm 7.8TQ 103W 73EF @20A
16125rpm 10.6TQ 126W 64EF @28A
Excellent 11x3 Ti Modified: RPM Blank, 6.5V
35041rpm 6.6TQ 168W 85EF @30A
31561rpm 9.1TQ 212W 84EF @40A
Excellent 8 turn HVW2, 4 cell Oval: RPM Blank, 5.0V
35762rpm 4.5TQ 119W 79EF @30A
32234rpm 7.7TQ 184W 81EF @45A
REMEMBER, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES.
__________________________________
Competition Electronics TURBODYNO 45 Settings
These are the settings I use. Although these certainly aren't the only ones to use, it does establish a baseline to start with. But I caution you on this. NEVER COMPARE DYNOS! They are all different. Mine may not be the same as yours. But it's not important. As long as you use your dyno and you can improve your motors with it, the number values don't have to compare with anyone else. And they probably won't. Use these settings and numbers as a guide only. Your numbers maybe be better or worse.
VOLTAGE SETTINGS
FOR 6 CELL TESTING ON SPEC (27t, 21t, 19t) MOTORS: 7.0V
FOR 4 CELL TESTING ON SPEC (27t, 21t, 19t) MOTORS: 5.0V
FOR 6 CELL TESTING OF MODIFIED MOTORS 11 TURNS OR MORE: 6.5V
FOR 6 CELL TESTING OF MODIFIED MOTORS 10 TURNS OR LESS: 5.0V
FOR 4 CELL TESTING OF MODIFIED MOTORS, ALL WINDS: 5.0V
In case you are wondering why I test low wind mods on 5.0V even if they're going to be run on 6 cells is because those type of winds spin so hard that it's very destructive to the slave motor on the dyno. With extreme low winds, a 5.0V setting will still tell you all you need to know accurately.
I should mention also that I'm not going to post all the readings from all 6 settings in my examples. You may not need to use all 6 and it will save space and get you the necessary info.
AMP LOADS
ALL SPEC MOTORS (27t, 21t, 19t) 4 OR 6 CELL USE (Except Oval):
15A, 18A, 20A, 22A, 25A, 28A
*Most Important for 6 cell: 20A and 28A
4 CELL OVAL:
15A, 18A, 20A, 22A, 25A, 0.0A
*Most Important for 4 cell: 20A and 25A
MODIFIED MOTORS: 11 TURNS OR MORE: 4 or 6 cell
20A, 25A, 30A, 35A, 40A, 0.0A
*Most Important 30A and 40A
MODIFIED MOTORS 1O TURNS OR LESS: 4 or 6 cell
25A, 35A, 45A, O.O, O.O, O.O
*Most Important: ALL
EXAMPLES:
My Best P2K2 @ 7.0V:
20366rpm 6.8TQ 103W 74EF @20A
17270rpm 10.1TQ 129W 66EF @28A
My Best GM3 @ 7.0V:
23474rpm 6.0TQ 102W 72EF @20A
19550rpm 8.8TQ 128W 65EF @28A
My Best MVP @ 7.0V:
19874rpm 6.9TQ 102W 72EF @20A
16659rpm 10.0TQ 124W 63EF @28A
*Note: MVP Watt numbers can be slightly lower than Epic motors and still run comparably. This is because of the supereior magnets, my best guess.
My Best Chameleon @ 5.0V:
18708rpm 5.5TQ 77W 77EF @20A
16632rpm 8.9TQ 109W 78EF @28A
My Best Street Spec (21t) @ 7.0V
17964rpm 7.8TQ 103W 73EF @20A
16125rpm 10.6TQ 126W 64EF @28A
Excellent 11x3 Ti Modified: RPM Blank, 6.5V
35041rpm 6.6TQ 168W 85EF @30A
31561rpm 9.1TQ 212W 84EF @40A
Excellent 8 turn HVW2, 4 cell Oval: RPM Blank, 5.0V
35762rpm 4.5TQ 119W 79EF @30A
32234rpm 7.7TQ 184W 81EF @45A
REMEMBER, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES.
#8
could anyone provide info on how to read the dyno print outs that comes with motors.
What does the info tell us ??
What should we look for if competing in sedan 27t ,19t ???
any feed back or links appreciated.
I used to race back in the 90's and we generally tweeked our motors with silver brushes and hard springs which worked well for us.
In fact my old Phantom silver can motors are just as fast as new CO27 and Green Monster.
They were a fav motor along with the Race Prep Hack Attack.
What does the info tell us ??
What should we look for if competing in sedan 27t ,19t ???
any feed back or links appreciated.
I used to race back in the 90's and we generally tweeked our motors with silver brushes and hard springs which worked well for us.
In fact my old Phantom silver can motors are just as fast as new CO27 and Green Monster.
They were a fav motor along with the Race Prep Hack Attack.