ritchie

anyone?

dragoneuh

isn't that what make the shock bounce back when you compress it?

Lonestar

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yup that's what they're for...

I personnally don't use them, I think they add nothing to your shocks. I like as little rebound as possible (there's always some due to the CV bladder) when I build them. Might as well use different springs if your want faster rebounding shocks...


Later
Paul

Matt Howard

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My flight leaves tuesday for Korea, I'll be there for a year.

johnbull

Hi friends. Greetings from Malta.

MATT. Steady on. Perhaps its because you are travelling to the far East and will be closer to Masami physically too !

SHOCKS. I have just built up a set without the rubber sponges and I must say they feel alot nicer.

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SSG and CGM. I think the basic difference is in the chassis flex. The SSG chassis has plenty of flex. If you remove the central backbone it gives it even more flex. That can be good in some cases. A car that flexes is alot easier for a beginner to drive because it is more forgiving. This can also be used to advantage by experts.

The downside however is tweek. The SSG chassis tends to tweek more easily and this can be a nuisance, especially if you clout a banking early in a race and tweek the chassis. De Tweeking is very simple. Just loosen the top plate screws a bit, wiggle the chassis, and retighten the screws. But it's not something you can do half way through a race.

The CGM chassis on the other hand is extremely rigid - dare I say the most rigid chassis in existance ! The good thing here is that once set up, the car is always right. It just doesn't tweek.

I made my own flat chassis out of 3.8mm carbon fibre. It's similar to the Rayspeed chassis but much stiffer. The only reason I made it was because the CGM had not been born yet and I wanted a stiff chassis. If it ever breaks I will have no second thoughts about simply replacing it with a CGM chassis - probably the normal one, not the lightweight.

I see that CGMs finished off 1st and 2nd in the British Nats last weekend at Halifax.

Lonestar

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Cool! SD's finally winning something after Masami's national title last year! At least! Joe, would you have a link so that we can see winning car pics? Thanks! Btw thanks for the CGM comments

Tweak on the SSG car: quick fix that also makes the car way more rigid: use countersunk screws on the upper plate (after removing the central one) without countersinking the plate itself... et voila, you can bang it against the board as hard as often as you like, and it doesn't tweak any more!

Will run the car this afternoon after a 3 wks break... I won't break the track record today....

later
Paul

agower

i dont no wheter to get rayspeed or cgm conversion kit? i race on tarmac and on carpet but i would preferably like the one that is best on tarmac and okay on carpet. any ideas?

also on a scale of 1 to 10 where does the rayspeed come for stiffness:
1 being ssg and 10 being cgm



many thanks
A Gower

johnbull

I would say about 4. My chassis is probably 8, but the CGM chassis is a good 10.

PAUL. You can read the Racer report. Go to Team Orion website and follow the prompts from there.

Interestingly there were 4 CGMs in the A final.

Horatio

My guesstimations:

SSG - 1
RS Chassis - 6
RS Chassis with doubled top deck - 8
John Bull chassis (made out of ex 1:1 race car) - 9
CGM - 10

1 being flexible

10 being rigid

Style points:

SSG - 9 (just because it's silver!!)

RS - 9 (that WCF looks awesome)

Custom hand-made chassis - 9.5 (so long as it's WCF)

CGM - 5 (no comment!)

Horatio

Johnbull:

Doh!!! Our posts crossed in the ether!

No contradictions intended, but we weren't that far off were we?!

agower

double topdeck?

Matt Howard

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You can use two topdecks sandwiched together to make a stiffer car.

Blakesrc

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Matt,

I dont know if anyone ever answered your question about the chassis Billy E. is using. I was down at Socal last night and he was running the ssg, just fyi.

Blake

Matt Howard

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Thanks. So is everyone gonna break out their old SSG chassis'?

STLNLST

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Matt- My win this weekend won't be complete without you in the race...