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Old 09-25-2006, 09:23 PM   #796
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iic notables (according to seaball) :

1) the new losi appears to be fast as he**. dumas in the main, ciccarello in 19t and mod.

2) dna body seemed fast. though there were still some fast parmas.

3) corally cars were a bit less dominant in stock and 19t than normal.

4) very little traction (relative to most carpet races).

5) tons of blowouts (crashes/mistakes). alot of really fast runs were negated by big mistakes. way more than normal on the rug. could be related to item (4).

that's all that i can recount. please comment. especially if you were there.
Some of the fastest stock cars looked like crap if you watched them closey (squaring off corners, not balanced, etc.). I believe they were wheeled by the best drivers and the best drivers do what they do best. Someone put it best when they said tuning at this years IIC was about throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck!!!!

Big thank you to all the event sponsors, Doug and Scotty and his amazing crew for a perfectly run event in my opinion.
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Old 09-25-2006, 09:34 PM   #797
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Some of the fastest stock cars looked like crap if you watched them closey (squaring off corners, not balanced, etc.). I believe they were wheeled by the best drivers and the best drivers do what they do best. Someone put it best when they said tuning at this years IIC was about throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck!!!!

Big thank you to all the event sponsors, Doug and Scotty and his amazing crew for a perfectly run event in my opinion.
What didn't stick could be wiped up with the dress I had at the race....LOL
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:56 PM   #798
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I could be wrong, but I don't think there was a defined groove at the Snowbirds this year either, could it possibly be the new carpet?
So it was a new type of carpet???? I asked about that before the event and it was said it was the same old stuff

All aside.... I liked it. Seemed very consistant for the whole week. I know most are saying that it was low traction or incosistant, but maybe it was just different? Since the traction didn't get better and better thru the event, that is what was being called lower traction than normal for carpet.

I am already getting set for next year.
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Old 09-25-2006, 10:57 PM   #799
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Another great Vegas race.

Thank you to Scotty, Boomer, and the rest of their crew for all of their hard work. The tech guys were excellent, and RC Scoring Pro worked flawless as usual.

Thanks to Shane, Mike and the other helpers at Amp Draw Hobbies, and also for providing the on-line coverage to the RC masses.

Some super racing, and crazy close qualifying.

It was great meeting a lot of SpeedMerchant customers face to face.

Big props to McMoney for the huge race banners.

Scotty continues to push the envelope and bring RC races to a truly professional level.

Hope everyone catches up on their sleep.

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Old 09-26-2006, 12:22 AM   #800
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The race was awesome! Even though the traction never came up, we all raced the same track and the BEST drivers this weekend won.
Thank you Scotty,the IIC crew and their sponsors for bringing us an intensive study in RC racing!
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:55 AM   #801
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No, he pitted with me and I was in his one E main. Only difference for me was I finished it!!
Put the crack pipe down ...I was in the B and the D; and nowhere near you, OK so I didn't finish my D run, actually didn't finish any of my 19T runs
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:04 AM   #802
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One small suggestion for next time - it was a bit weird to see the race results section updated before the video feed comes through - Scotty would be calling "last lap for it all" and the suspense was "ruined" in seeing the scoring software post the race final results. Had to try hard not to cheat and avoid looking at the scoring software part of the screen. I sure am not computer proficient enough to figure out why that was, multiple service providers??
Yea, ideally this would be the case, but it's not particularly doable unless we introduced some specific delay in the scoring, but that seems kind of counterproductive.

Basically, you have three different sets of data going to your computer: the video/audio stream, the scoring data, and the chat data. Each one is from an independent source, and each one comes at a different rate. I was able to get the scoring delay down to about 6-8 seconds off of real time, which was great. The video, however, needs a 4-6 second buffer on most computers to play correctly, and there is a second or two of encode delay. And on choppier connections, the buffer time needs to be longer. Plus we really can't control it, and the delay is different on just about everybody's computer.

At some point I may be able to encapsulate all of that into one applet with the data time coded to each frame, but that would require people to download some sort of applet/plugin, which would present a whole new set of security problems. I have another year now to tinker with new ideas and stuff, we'll see what happens for the next one.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:09 AM   #803
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Thanks Scotty, Boomer and crew for another memorable and awsome race event ...can't wait till next year
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Anyone have videos of the races? I missed the live video was a little busy that time.
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:56 AM   #805
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Put the crack pipe down ...I was in the B and the D; and nowhere near you, OK so I didn't finish my D run, actually didn't finish any of my 19T runs
No Harsh, that comment was made in reference to Roachracin pitting near me and not finishing the same main I was in. So who is on the pipe now?
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Old 09-26-2006, 06:14 AM   #806
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So it was a new type of carpet????
yes, the carpet has been changed quite a bit. notice that there was very little fuzz coming off? this new stuff has way less pile. it has initial traction with very little traffic, but after that, it doesn't change too much. at least, that's what cleveland was like, and our new capet at the gate, when we put it down three weeks ago.

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Just got home from Vegas.... no the traction never came way up.... I dont think it was the traction compound because Scotty uses the same one (Jack)at the Novak and the traction was very high there
this was the first race where jack was used on the the new style carpet. jack is really only good in high doses on normal carpet. matching jack, which seems to take a while to groove up, with this carpet, that really doesn't foster a groove, makes for some different conditions than what we're used to.

i wonder if this new carpet is going to inhibit the push for "all jack" tracks? we had considered it a few months ago, but right now i think our track would be pure garbage with jack at club levels.
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Thank you for putting on such a great race. I am thrilled to be part of such an event. Much thanks to all the trackside crew! What will you guys do to top this? I wonder.
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No Harsh, that comment was made in reference to Roachracin pitting near me and not finishing the same main I was in. So who is on the pipe now?
LOL ...I guess that would be me
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:29 AM   #809
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Seaball first of all, thanks for your assistance with the Birth of BendingCorners"Carpet"Raceway in Southern California.

I did the numbers and they kinda looked like this
- 60 heats x 10 cars per day = 600 cars
600 cars @ apprx 28 laps each = 16,800 laps/day
16,800 laps per day x 4 days = 67,200.00 laps.

WOW!
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Seaball first of all, thanks for your assistance with the Birth of BendingCorners"Carpet"Raceway in Southern California.

I did the numbers and they kinda looked like this
- 60 heats x 10 cars per day = 600 cars
600 cars @ apprx 28 laps each = 16,800 laps/day
16,800 laps per day x 4 days = 67,200.00 laps.

WOW!

Wait wait wait.....YOU did all that math yourself????

Good to see you out there Raf. Fun times as always....
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