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Old 08-04-2009, 02:02 PM   #10081
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Here is the complete set up of Lucas

Track Conditions : Outdoor/Open/Asphalt/Smooth/High Bite

Front Suspension

Toe : 0
Ride Height : 4.8mm
Camber : 1
Kick/Anti Dive : 0
Caster : 4
Ground Clearance : 7.5mm
Front pivot : 0
Roll Center : High
Arm Spacing : Middle
Shock Position : 2
Steering Rack : 2
Spindle Ackerman : 2 / 1mm Bump Steer
Camber Link : 1 / Jr link not used
Camber ball stud : std
Sway Bar : 0.050
Up Travel : Not used
Arm Length : Long

Front Drivetrain

Front drive : Spool
Pulley : 42T
Diff height : High
Drive Axle : LCD
Hex Width : 0.195

Shocks

OIl : 35 Losi
Piston : Red
Spring : 15lbs
Bladder : std
Above Bladder : none


Rear Suspension

Toe : 2
Ride Height : 5.2mm
Ground Clearance : 8mm
Camber : 1
Anti/Pro Squat : 0
Hub : Std 0
Rear Pivot : 2
Arm Spacing : Forward
Shock POsition : 3
Camber Link : A/1
Camber Link Ball Stud : Std
Sway bar : 0.050
Up Travel : Not used
Arm Length : Long

Rear Drivetrain

Diff height : Low
Drive Axle : RCD
Hex Width : 0.165

Shocks

OIl : 35 Losi
Piston : Red
Spring : 12.5lbs
Bladder : Std
Above Bladder : none

Body : Lexus LTC-R Light
Wing : Protoform
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:47 PM   #10082
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:57 PM   #10083
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Hey Lucas....

I noticed you have nothing above the bladder in your shocks. A long time ago now my brother and I had trouble tuning our cars to a certain track and eventually worked out that lots of rebound made a huge difference. Since then it has always been normal for me to run full rebound with foam spacers above the bladder. On the JRXSR I have been using 2xO-rings. I have never really considered trying something else but have heard a lot of talk lately of minimal to zero rebound. Whats your exp with this as its the main priority of my next outing to test this.

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Old 08-04-2009, 06:10 PM   #10084
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Hey Lucas....

I noticed you have nothing above the bladder in your shocks. A long time ago now my brother and I had trouble tuning our cars to a certain track and eventually worked out that lots of rebound made a huge difference. Since then it has always been normal for me to run full rebound with foam spacers above the bladder. On the JRXSR I have been using 2xO-rings. I have never really considered trying something else but have heard a lot of talk lately of minimal to zero rebound. Whats your exp with this as its the main priority of my next outing to test this.

Cheers.
Well I think no rebound makes the car more stable, more predictable and also smoother on the bumps.
I've never really tested the car with foam spacers or o-ring above the bladder on asphalt tracks, actually it doesn't really make sense to me to have rebound on asphalt.
But I may be wrong, and I think I will try with more rebound to check if I'm right...
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:38 PM   #10085
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Well I think no rebound makes the car more stable, more predictable and also smoother on the bumps.
I've never really tested the car with foam spacers or o-ring above the bladder on asphalt tracks, actually it doesn't really make sense to me to have rebound on asphalt.
But I may be wrong, and I think I will try with more rebound to check if I'm right...
Interesting... I'm pretty sure I have found the opposite. When my shocks are overdue for a rebuild then "topping up" and bringing the rebound back usually makes my care more stable. That said I don't care about stability but more about maximum performance. If the car goes faster with it then I will use it. At the moment I am planning on trying different rebound settings on my next outing, perhaps tonight. Always best to see for yourself.

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Old 08-04-2009, 10:54 PM   #10086
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I dont run the car anymore but I never ran anything above the bladders and only about 1/4 rebound. Any more it felt weird.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:06 AM   #10087
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On foam tires I like almost full rebound in the front but on rubber tires I like very little rebound. Shock rebound is something often overlooked as it's not always listed on setup sheets but has a big impact on the overall performance and balance of the car.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:19 AM   #10088
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Anyone run the updated R9R on asphalt? I've heard that it may still have to bit too much front bite, just curious since I have one sitting here unpainted.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:40 AM   #10089
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Anyone run the updated R9R on asphalt? I've heard that it may still have to bit too much front bite, just curious since I have one sitting here unpainted.
That's going to depend on the surface. On a high bite track it might be okay if you like a lot of steering. On a low bite track break out the gauges or you're going to be loose.

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Anyone run the updated R9R on asphalt? I've heard that it may still have to bit too much front bite, just curious since I have one sitting here unpainted.
I tried at Jackson few month ago.

it was unpredictable on some turns, especially that small island turn after right hand sweeper. so I switched to LTC-R but I might going to get regular Mazda6 for nextweek

at last trophy race when main race happend in sunset, I had too much traction car was so twitch at high speed corners even with a LTC
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:06 AM   #10091
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Anyone run the updated R9R on asphalt? I've heard that it may still have to bit too much front bite, just curious since I have one sitting here unpainted.
It isn't the best to drive but has awesome on power steering so I run it for a club body. I think you will be faster over a race with the two big guns and keep the R9 for fun.
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It isn't the best to drive but has awesome on power steering so I run it for a club body. I think you will be faster over a race with the two big guns and keep the R9 for fun.
I'm only going to be running 17.5 on a pretty big track on jaco blues, I'm sure I can find more rear bit if needed.
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I'm only going to be running 17.5 on a pretty big track on jaco blues, I'm sure I can find more rear bit if needed.
It should be pretty well behaved for 17.5. In my opinion you should have a Speed6, LTC-R and R9 protoform body on hand all the time if you want to be fast. I don't bother with other bands anymore.
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Anyone run the updated R9R on asphalt? I've heard that it may still have to bit too much front bite, just curious since I have one sitting here unpainted.
When you say "updated" do you mean it was changed since its release?

I ran it for a little while (o.k. so it was more than a little while but ....) and the LTC-R and the Speed 6 are MUUUUUCH better bodies. The performance is night and day, the R9R made the rear of the losi really loose.
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