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Old 03-22-2008, 07:55 AM   #6826
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that's fine, you still can't have my steel lipo tray
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:58 AM   #6827
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When running LiPO's have you tried running the car light and compared it to running the car legal weight? I have been having trouble keeping the front faster than the rear and am starting to think it has to do with my car being so light.
My local track doesn't have a minimum weight and, well since the Steel tray hasn't been available, I've just been running the plastic one. I started with that at the Nats last week and then borrowed Matt's Steel one... I can't say the steel one gave the car more steering or made it more planted, it just felt better all over. Now I changed a ton of things on my car for the Nats track that is so much higher bite than my home track. I dunno how that will translate to here and may not be able to find out till fall (they're getting the 1/8-scale track ready and plan on running there now instead of indoors )
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:38 AM   #6828
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are you guys running light cars on asphalt or carpet? mine is light (maybe 100 grams) and i cant keep the backend planted for anything! i'm wondering if it is a weight issue..
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:39 AM   #6829
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i used to run a steel lipo tray but to balance the car left to right i needed to add a lot of weight thus, it throws my car over the minimal weight 50-60 grams.
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matt, what was your gearing for nationals, and what degree hubs do you run in the front- 3 or 4?
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Old 03-22-2008, 08:54 PM   #6831
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I have found with the plastic lipo tray I can use the weight I need to add to balance the car left and right. I have added most of the weight on the right side with the light receiver. I run the sphere TC ecs that is heavy to begin with on the left side. I am also running the KO 2413 servo that is light. I would rather have a full size servo for added weight. I am also using a Core 5000 lipo. Over all I think the car handles best with the lipo and plastic tray. I have my car at 1425Grams with the body. And have the car balanced very well left to right. Oh I almost forgot. I have 2 25mm fans on the rear for more weight.
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Old 03-22-2008, 08:57 PM   #6832
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matt, what was your gearing for nationals, and what degree hubs do you run in the front- 3 or 4?
In his setup he has 4 degree caster and 3 degree of rear toe.
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:14 PM   #6833
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matt, what was your gearing for nationals, and what degree hubs do you run in the front- 3 or 4?
112/46 with 4 deg castor and 3 deg toe in for the rear
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:14 PM   #6834
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are you guys running light cars on asphalt or carpet? mine is light (maybe 100 grams) and i cant keep the backend planted for anything! i'm wondering if it is a weight issue..
I'm on carpet with rubber tires. The problem only presents itself in "long" corners. I don't have the problem with 90's or 180's, but there are a couple decreasing radius corners with the current layout and I just cannot seem to keep the rear of the car planted. Everything I do to try and resolve the issue makes the car suffer everywhere else. I was hoping that somebody would chime in with "it's because of running light," but now I am not sure.
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yea, my issue is with the more looping corners as well.. the back end seems to hold for a half beat, then just fade away.. i'm going to have to try some pretty radical link positions and such to see if i can affect it either way.. i'll let you know my results... it's both on and off throttle by the way..
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I switched from Xray to Type R and got the help from Yohan.
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yea, my issue is with the more looping corners as well.. the back end seems to hold for a half beat, then just fade away.. i'm going to have to try some pretty radical link positions and such to see if i can affect it either way.. i'll let you know my results... it's both on and off throttle by the way..
Just asking, but have you placed the car on a tweak station? I know with the type R if your spring tweak is off your car will handle really crapy. You just do not want to set the same ride height all the way around on the car. If i do that my car handles bad. Your problem may be as simple as tweak.
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i've set the tweek several times, and my works station is actually a custom corner weight board, so it's dead on..
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