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Old 06-14-2006, 06:43 PM
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I'm just wondering what's up with some of the teams as of late supporting full travel stock racers? Stock is for up and coming racers, if you have a full travel sponsorship, shouldn't you be running mod with the big boys? This just seems like a cheap way to cheat out the normal stock guys from a deserving win in their class. If you want to call yourself a pro racer, at least have the balls to run a pro motor.
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What! Those exist? Hurting!
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Your right Berger!!

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Old 06-14-2006, 06:59 PM
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Hmmm! This could get messy! I know of some that are full travel!
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Look at the funny guys coming on here, creating new accounts with porn star names hoping to stir up some trouble.

Dont rise to it
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Originally Posted by EAMotorsports
LOL...Name one and I bet your wrong.....

There are a LOT of sponsored stock drivers and a lot of them who get incentives....but NONE of them are full factory paid drivers.

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Well EA....i never said anything about being "Paid" full factory racers. What im saying is if your good enough to be getting a full factory ride and have your flights and all of your travel expenses paid for then you shouldnt be sand bagging and running stock just to make your Bonus money over other stock guys who have to pay for everything. All im saying is step up.....
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I can't tell if you are a troll or not. For argument's sake let's say no.

Stock cars are cheaper to run than mod. I have seen mod drivers go through matched packs nearly every 6 months, even less if they are running large events all the time. With stock I can get at least double the time out of batteries, motors, tyres and requires less maintainence.

Of course once brushless takes off in Mod that might lower the maintainence costs.

In regards to sponsorship of drivers, I can understand why EA and other motor companies, and some chassis manufacturers, throw their money at Stock. It seems, from what I have from experience read from these forums, more popular in the US than Mod. Plus those companies want to develop their products to be the best in their competition level, be it stock, mod or 19T.

Bagging out people for running Stock is silly. I know people who happily run in classes that use the non-rebuildable silver can motors. As long as they are happy with the class they are running in, and those drivers are not interfering with your racing, why get upset?
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Because he "deserves" a win...???
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Stock is for up and coming racers, if you have a full travel sponsorship, shouldn't you be running mod with the big boys?
STOCK itself is NOT a "up and coming" class. Actually STOCK can be one of the TOUGHEST classes, since everyone has one basic motor (27t , 24 d) type motor to run. DRIVING is the KEY to winning STOCK, where as in MOD you have to Drive, have the BEST STUFF, and be able to HANDLE extra speed.

As far as "Deserving to Win"..NOBODY deserves to WIN, that's why it's call RACING, you have to EARN IT~

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Ok most of you dont seem to understand that i am talking about the drivers that have full factory sponserships and are going to every race possible for free from there chassis sponsers so that they can go and beat all the guys who actually pay for there stuff. I say if you win a big race in stock or even if your a full factory driver who had everything paid for by all there sponsers then you should not race stok you should leave that to the people who are in need of sponsership and are up and coming. Basicly if your full factory and you only race stock at every race you go to just so you can win and make yourself feel good then your a b***h....
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Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy
Ok most of you dont seem to understand that i am talking about the drivers that have full factory sponserships and are going to every race possible for free from there chassis sponsers so that they can go and beat all the guys who actually pay for there stuff. I say if you win a big race in stock or even if your a full factory driver who had everything paid for by all there sponsers then you should not race stok you should leave that to the people who are in need of sponsership and are up and coming. Basicly if your full factory and you only race stock at every race you go to just so you can win and make yourself feel good then your a b***h....

dont hate , go practice and get your self a 50% ride than make the main @ one big race and you set the ball rolling.....The guys with Full rides didnt get them over night ..they happen over time and time is money they allready spent...1000 bucks for the win sounds good to me..
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i know and i understand that but im talking about people who go to ALL the big races like Nationals and Reedy race and ones like that just to run stock and win every race and have there sponsers pay for everything when there beating guys who have to pay for stuff.....maybe there needs to be a Factory stock class and then just a Stock class to seperate the stock classes more equally. Then big name factory drivers that make mod mains will run with those stock guys and show them how its really done, while the non factory stock guys can run there own race without having to worry about the factory guy with the best possible everything and all the team support.
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80% or more of all motor and battery sells are stock. That's a company's main target cliental. Company's sponsor drivers to highlight their product so it sells to the average joe club racer. It only makes sense that they will put their sponsored drivers in the stock classes.

It's simple business.
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weather full factory or not everyone has a equal chance at winning the race.

not everyone in the A is full factory..................
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Originally Posted by Anthony.L
80% or more of all motor and battery sells are stock. That's a company's main target cliental. Company's sponsor drivers to highlight their product so it sells to the average joe club racer. It only makes sense that they will put their sponsored drivers in the stock classes.

It's simple business.

So are you saying that to promote stock stuff you wouldnt care if the rest of the X-ray team that normally runs mod starts just running stock? Or guys like Todd Hodge or Matt Francis or Barry Baker start only running stock to Promote there cars? If your saying that you dont care if they race stock and win every race and not give the regular paying customer stock racer a chance to win then thats B.S. I mean look at the Nationals that just ended, I belive the person who won was a full factory driver who gets paid for everything including all of his travel. Now you put other guys out there like the ones i listed above and that person who won stock at the nats would have barley made the main if lucky enough to make it, which means all thats doing is pushing the average paying stock racer even farther back in the mains then before.
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