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Old 07-17-2007, 06:35 PM   #556
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Does anybody have a good setup for rubber tire on asphalt with a 19t motor?
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:34 AM   #557
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With the clicking you should really try and determine the source of the noise incase it is something potentially serious.

Take of one of the belts and isolate if its coming from the front or rear.

Then take out the dogbones. The clicking maybe be coming from the join where the dogbone sits in the cups of the axle stubs.

The dif pulley will move on the diff. Take into account they are held in place on the diff balls and not by being sandwiched between the diff cups. If they were tight on the diff balls well then the diff balls probably wouldnt turn and if the diff cups were tightened up tight onto the diff pulley the diff cups wont turn independently....
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:47 AM   #558
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Carlos, I didnt really play with my cyclone S much in stock settings. The cyclone S comes with a lot of features built into it which you would normally use for a good setup.

I would personally look at upgrading the car and going for universals and a spool. The spool will punish the drivetrain a bit so make sure you get the HD Steel dogbones and NOT aluminium universals if you upgrading them.
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:18 AM   #559
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Get the carbon graphite c hubs. In hmm i think its 3 years of racing (pro 4 and cyclone) i think ive only ever broken one.

The Part No. is 73518
Yes Pro 4 to now !
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:23 AM   #560
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Also are the diff pullies supposed to have side to side play in them?
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OK I found where it is rubbing. If you have acess to the manual it on page 8 top pic part number75143b. In the Cyclone S kit its the purple servo saver collar at the base of the steering column. I know it rubbing there because the anodize is actually rubbed off. Now the question is how to fix it. Since the rub is not constant that leads me to believe that the belt is not tracking straight. Moving side to side hitting the collar. Any hints on how to fix it?

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Old 07-19-2007, 11:44 PM   #562
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You sure the servo saver is assembled properly?
The belt should be near it

Is the shim on the center shaft in the right place?
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I checked the assembly on the servo saver, that checks out ok. By center shaft you the the lay shaft? I'll check that out and see if I got that wrong. I noticed that my diffs have alot of side to side play between the bulkheads. I looked in the manual for the Hara edition of the cyclone they have washers that go between the out drives and the diff bearings. I'm wondering if I used washers on one side to keep the diff away from the servo saver collar if that would help.
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Sorry yeah, the layshaft is what i meant.

With the shims around the diff, they are quite thin shims like .1 and .2 mm i think off the top of my head, so the play shouldnt really be that excessive.

If you can take any decent pictures of your car perhaps that might help me see if there is anything unusual. So you checked that the collar to the servo saver hasnt come undone?
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My kit had no shims for the diff in it at all. The collar on the servo saver is assembled just like the manual.
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Old 07-21-2007, 07:08 AM   #566
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Yes but are you sure it hasnt come loose?
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Nope the collar is snug. If I can find the right thikness shim to put between the out drive cup and the diff bearing it looks like it should solve the problem. If it wokrs I'll try and snap a few pics. By the way thank you for all your help mangoman.
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I ran the S today in a very close race. We run on a large medium outdoor track. I usually run a Cyclone but I sold it. I just have the S left. With the only items changed from stock such as , rear diff is alloy, 3racing layshaft pully, and narrow wheel hex's. The car is stock. It ran great. I run in a 19t/10.5 class. With some very fast local guys. The car was very impressive. It seemed to run better than the other cyclone I had. I finished 2nd with the top 4 less than 2 seconds apart. It was an awsome main for us.

Here is my set up.

Front
Camber link lower hole
shock, 2nd hole out top, lower outer hole
silver spring
45wt Losi oil stock piston
4 degree caster
diff very tight.
stock arm mounts

Rear
Camber link lower hole
shock, 4th hole out on tower, middle on arm
silver spring
45wt oil Losi
hub, .75 shim forward then hub then 2mm shim
stock arm mounts

Atlas red can with F-brush stock silver springs ran at a 6.25 FDR
RP30 tires
DNA 2 body, wing centered
Car weight of 1525g
Orion 4800 lipo
LRP quantum sport esc
Airtronics 94257 servo
Airtronics rec.

This setup rocks! I may go longer on the wheel base next time. Car had good steering low speed and high speed.
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No Worries MonkeyFist, i cant really think of anything else that could be wrong
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You tried Mangman, thanks. I couldn't find the right size shims yesterday, so I riggrd up a temp one that seemed to help, I need better shims to make sure.
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