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Old 11-11-2006, 04:23 PM   #301
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sorry for double posting i noticed that the diff gears were loose, side by side, but i cannot turn them if i hold both of the outdrives. any help would be much appreciated as i do not want to drive the car and tear it up.
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Old 11-11-2006, 05:18 PM   #302
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for the cyclone acceleration issue, you can increase acceleration by tightening your belt on the bearing mount, but you may have to replace your belt more often with this adjustment. i'm not sure but i think the minor noise is normal, in my car i just make sure that my drivetrain works properly without bind.

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i noticed that the diff gears were loose, side by side, but i cannot turn them if i hold both of the outdrives. any help would be much appreciated as i do not want to drive the car and tear it up.
try rebuild it, check if any of the parts are broken.

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Old 11-12-2006, 08:25 AM   #303
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i pulled both the diffs out. first i made sure they were still tight and didnt loose their settings. i then pulled them apart and inspected everything. nothing was broken, i rebuilt them per the instruction manual. they still do it. i dont wanna leave it and run the car in fear of tearing the diffs up, yet i do not see a fix for it. i emailed hotbodies to see what they have to say and i am waiting for their reply.
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If you are referring to a slight wobble of the drive pully, that is normal.
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:01 PM   #306
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mangoman: that car must be fast
I wish it was The car seems to be jinxed.

So far ive had the following problems:

First Run/Meet
Installed HB front one way with version 2 universals. The version 2 universal wouldnt fit in the plastic diff outdrives so i had to run dogbones on the rear diff
After runing for 3 heats switched back to old car because the car was undrivable. Only found out after the meet that the centre pulley was stripped so the car was rear wheel drive.

Second Meet
Stripped the centre pulley again, pulled out the oneway which as i suspected fixed the problem. Rest of the meet the car was doing strange things and i had to revert to old car again. I think it was doing strange things though as i was running spring sets which were WAY too hard on the rear.

Third Meet
First run main chassis snapped between the rear pivot blocks, so i needed to order parts quick
Turns out the 3racing centre pulley was released i think the day after i placed my order

Last weekend
Had to take off all the 3racing aluminium bulkheads and the 3racing motor mount due to what appears to be problems with tollerances. But have the graphite main chassis upper deck and shock towers with aluminium bulkhead covers. Car is nice and light as the plastic is lighter than the aluminium.
Hopes are high as the car looks nice with the graphite parts and bits of shiny aluminium.

Anyway first run the car is playing up, turns out the diff came loose. Did it up and it comes loose again in the second run. Im thinking hmmm should i go back to the old car. Over do the rear diff this time. One last run.
The car stops halfway through the race. The rear diff has come loose and the front diff is like a spool. **SIGH**
I get home checked the car both diffs damaged. The rear diff which was coming loose the post on the out drive which sticks out for you to put the small bearings on (or bushings on the standard kit) has snapped off. The other outdrive the D on one side of the outdrive which holds the actual ring had sheared off there was plastic all through the interals of the diff.

Oh well i think it will be a couple more weeks now before i order more parts to get it going again, i think the car has jinxed me because i was thinking about buying the full kit and shouldve done it at the time
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for the cyclone acceleration issue, you can increase acceleration by tightening your belt on the bearing mount, but you may have to replace your belt more often with this adjustment. i'm not sure but i think the minor noise is normal, in my car i just make sure that my drivetrain works properly without bind.


try rebuild it, check if any of the parts are broken.

mangoman: that car must be fast
Figured it out, but decided to trade it. I got lucky and someone has a Pro 4 they are willing to part with. I found the sweet spot but for me, I like the instant response of shaft. Coming out of turns, the Cyclone, between the two cars, cant be beat.
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for the cyclone acceleration issue, you can increase acceleration by tightening your belt on the bearing mount, but you may have to replace your belt more often with this adjustment. i'm not sure but i think the minor noise is normal, in my car i just make sure that my drivetrain works properly without bind.


try rebuild it, check if any of the parts are broken.

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It was tight, and someone suggested loosening. I figure its easier to go back to what I am good at and thats shaft.
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I wish it was The car seems to be jinxed.
try loosening your belts so your drivetrain parts, specially the center pulley, won't be stressed much. your motor must have serious power

i had the same experience with the one-way, good thing i had spare spring steel one-way outdrives laying around. just need to get rid of the "play" with something to get a good fit.

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now that was fast, good luck
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try loosening your belts so your drivetrain parts, specially the center pulley, won't be stressed much. your motor must have serious power

i had the same experience with the one-way, good thing i had spare spring steel one-way outdrives laying around. just need to get rid of the "play" with something to get a good fit.

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now that was fast, good luck


I know how I am about this hobby. If something isnt for me, then I move on.I would hate to pour a ton of money into the car and not be totally satisfied. The Pro 4 suits my aggressive driving style and I guess I got used to the pushing into the corner. Thanx.
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If you are referring to a slight wobble of the drive pully, that is normal.
i was referring to the pulleys on the diffs
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i was referring to the pulleys on the diffs
That is normal on the cyclone
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i didnt know, ive only owned shaft drives up until now. after racing the season againsts a bunch of belt cars. i thought i'd try it and see what would happen. i always thought belt cars would need more attention. ie: that the belts would stretch soon after and i'd have to buy/replace belts every 2 weeks.
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Yeah i always assumed that too, but my friend assures me that is not the case. The thing which concerns me most though is the open diffs. I hate having to clean my car and dont look forward to regularly having to clean the diffs out.

Most of the time I dont even usually bother dusting my shaft-drive car down.
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i did my tamiya before and after each race not rounds but race. and that was with foam tires, i started with foams in july and ive still got the set ive run on since, yet i havent trued them yet... no tire truer tho. but im gonna go back to rubber since that is the rule. we just started a carpet track here and our first race is sat. lets see what the stock setup can do. oh my tamiya had 1 deg rear toe and the cyclone comes stock with 3. ive noticed so far that the cyclone turns in alot easier(because of toe). so i will have to adjust my driving style until i get some rear toe blocks.
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