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Old 04-21-2006, 12:59 PM   #31
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I agree Bitter. 19 turn is supposed to be a spec class. You can't have a hand wound, spec class.
Ok, I was with NORRCA several years ago...this was about the time we decided to take STOCK motors from being non rebuildable to rebuildable. When we did this we basically eliminated what was the "EXPERT" stock class. In NORRCA Expert Stock used the pink 36 degree motor. We were at that time told the motor MFG's WOULD make what we requested for a rebuildable STOCK motor, but the would NOT make it both 24 and 36 degree.

The expert stock drivers felt the 24d motor was too slow and were NOT prepared to jump up to MODIFIED. This sent us looking for other ideas. The old RCRA oval series in the past had used 19t motors and there was a group using them in Florida at that time. These were a bit faster than the 27turn 36 degree motors, but the guys who tested liked the additional speed.

Before the rules were finalized for this motor class TRINITY came out with their Chameleon I motor. This motor fit 80% of the written rules, so it was adopted in the beginning, then it was directed toward what we originally looked for with the Cham. 2.

The original concept was this.


Machine wound 19x1 spec arm.


Laydown brushes (EVERYTHING same as a STOCK MOTOR interchangable)

Thus in order for a STOCK driver to move up a class, all he would need was ARMATURES.

This never worked out...and became what we have today...Too bad.
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Old 04-21-2006, 01:06 PM   #32
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Really the only difference I see between the motors you're describing and the current group of locked 19 turn motors is the fact they had bushings, not bearings like they do currently. To me all motors, stock included, should have bearings. But that's a different discussion. 19 turn machine wound, tagged armature, any brush configuration, and locked timing. That's how I think the rules should be. But I'm far from a motor EXPERT.
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