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Old 04-09-2006, 06:01 AM   #16
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don`t get tweaks with our chassis & it could be a boat aswell
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Old 04-09-2006, 06:18 AM   #17
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didn`t think any one is using them
not true . I can think of 6 people at our club (average turnout of 20-25) using the TC4 and not all close friends.
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Old 04-09-2006, 06:33 AM   #18
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I was thinking about some dremmeling of the suspension arms to make the wheelbase shorter....
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not true . I can think of 6 people at our club (average turnout of 20-25) using the TC4 and not all close friends.
you must have all the TC3/4 owners there then
just joshing
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I was thinking about some dremmeling of the suspension arms to make the wheelbase shorter....
i`m not doing that (not that serious about it

how about the narrow wishbones that yokomo has just released
think the cyclone has a narrow track aswell
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Old 04-09-2006, 01:07 PM   #21
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how about the narrow wishbones that yokomo has just released
think the cyclone has a narrow track aswell
i will check tomorow but i think the cyclone has a track width of 185mm, and a standard BD has 189mm, as for the worlds wishbones it looks like they have moved the hinge pin mount about 2mm to get about 185mm front track width but with no way of reducing the rear.
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Old 04-09-2006, 01:22 PM   #22
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I guess to find real variants with the track and the wheelbase we could measure diagonals be interesting to see how much each car is different.
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T2 front track adjustable from 183-186mm, rear adjustable 186 -189mm. Can also add further adjustment by 1mm offset hex's.
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is this why the newer cars are/seam faster on tracks nowaday`s
being on shorter wheel bases
415 runs around 257mm this is a whole 3mm shorter then what the SD can get (shortest this can get is 260mm), std setup is with 2mm spacers either side of wishbone is 264mm so this is whole different planet

i.a.s hurry up & measure the tc3/4 jobby
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Short wheelbase's aren't really new to xray, original T1 could run between 252 and 261 mm. I just think the others are catching on to the small tricks that they used to pass by more quickly now.
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Here it goes

255mm - 262mm
But im using losi rear hubs which may change the length


I run the car at 257mm
That the Ft tc4

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surely shorter wheelbase will make the car unstable and twitchy?
manufacturers must set the sheelbase to the optimum setting for its weight distribution etc.
little changes in wheelbase makes a big difference so dont go too mad hehehe
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A friend of mine and I were having this conversation last week. He has built a Yokomo SD and a Schumacher both for foam on carpet. Both are very fast, even in the hands of different drivers. His conclusion is that cars should be around 260mm, with the ability to move 2-3mm shorter or longer.
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surely shorter wheelbase will make the car unstable and twitchy?
manufacturers must set the sheelbase to the optimum setting for its weight distribution etc.
little changes in wheelbase makes a big difference so dont go too mad hehehe

A Shorter wheelbase makes the car more responsive, better for tight, twisty tracks while the longer one is faster on the long sweepers without many quick change of direction
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I remember racing my SD in oh... 2004 outdoor season. I was scratching my head as to how these other cars were goin thru corners soo much faster (better rotation). I ended up shortening my wheelbase all the way down and it did the trick. So I can understand what's goin on here. I notice alot of the japanese market cars are/were designed for long wheelbase. Also reminds me when I think Tosolini drove for Yokomo and he shortened/ground down his arms for shorter wheelbase on carpet/foams. Hmmm interesting that you bring this up...
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